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Veliki Oltar

Janez Seliškar27. 08. 2023 19:22:30

"skala", you are completely right, the mountain is named Great Altar. Editor Tadej should otherwise change the title Altar to Great Altar and there wouldn't be unnecessary scribbles! nasmeh

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Tadej27. 08. 2023 19:40:13

Thanks for the warning. I moved and changed the title.

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turbo27. 08. 2023 20:33:04

Interesting. Janez was in 2012 on Altar, ascent description published on these pages, and only today, after eleven years, remembers that "Great" is missing in the title. velik nasmeh

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Janez Seliškar27. 08. 2023 20:39:21

"turbo", does perhaps something bother you that we finally edited the topic title?

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turbo28. 08. 2023 06:25:02

Well why would it bother me, quite the opposite, just seems strange to me that you needed eleven years for it. velik nasmeh

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Janez Seliškar28. 08. 2023 07:06:55

You had the same opportunity as I did, you too and a multitude of others who follow the posts on this website!

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bongo28. 08. 2023 09:02:54

Maybe for the masses it's not so ultra important in this case to risk or start a multi-page epic. velik nasmeh

Nothing about Altar - pardon Great Altar.

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Janez Seliškar28. 08. 2023 09:35:01

"bongo", why then bother the keyboard and pollute the post. We've settled the matter and now expect a new post about the approach to the summit and conditions on the path.
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Tadej, you can safely delete the last 11 opinions, so no one gets overwhelmed by high pressure and agitation. nasmeh

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Trobec28. 08. 2023 10:13:30

So... the matter is arranged, topic is back to 1, last comments (including this mine zadrega

) really contribute nothing to "social progress", what's the point of more searching/time needed for someone who wants to find out about current conditions because of them...

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KLAN3. 09. 2023 19:48:56

Big, small, long, wide, narrow, biggest or smallest, important it's Altar. velik nasmeh

Last year the class teacher told us size doesn't matter but technique. velik nasmeh

Come on, joke aside, we had a nice ascent with the girl up there. She went like a chamois. mežikanje

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DVas3. 10. 2023 09:59:07

How much time does it approximately take to hike to the Altar? Is the orientation really very demanding? I want this weekend... And I'd like to find out a bit more information. Thanks.

sla3. 10. 2023 10:17:26

In the mountain list you have two approaches described for Great Altar.
Last year from Vrata direction there were enough cairns, speed depends on experience in pathless areas. We were there in less than 6 hours...

lijaneja3. 10. 2023 12:57:03

I enjoy Altar the most in late spring via Kačji jezik.

ppegan3. 10. 2023 15:41:10

There are enough cairns, just below the summit there are fewer. There with my colleague we took the harder left variant, as we didn't find the easier one zavijanje z očmi

Concentration was high at the top, and that notch before the summit troubled us a bit, but all's well that ends well. We hiked less than 6 hours, I think about 5.5. Don't remember exactly zadrega

Recommend up Brinje and down past bivouac, on scree express velik nasmeh

DVas8. 10. 2023 20:04:46

I read this just now among comments..

"I also think the route description could change so it's clear there are two gullies to summit and follow left on left side."

I went right gully to ridge, then had to descend ridge and climb to top. Not very pleasant. At least know for next time. There are cairns on right side practically to top too.

Lying home writing this, end good all good. And gained some new knowledge. Otherwise pleasant day, all ok except last part.

n3jc8. 10. 2023 20:31:15

In Habjan's Brezpotja and Mihelič's Northern Approaches you have descriptions and Cedilnik's sketch ... Minor deviations from the actual terrain conditions can be found for some tours also in these two and similar guides (errare humanum est), but due to the authors' experience such books, once you get used to them, are always a step more reliable than random internet descriptions and following cairns.

About cairns though - unfortunately we've already seen reports on this forum where hikers who were actually lost and had no clue about the terrain placed cairns "to help others" ... alas, that's how it is. And that's why "follow the cairns" advice in 2023 seems highly questionable to me, because you never know if someone just yesterday put something wrong or similar.

Of course sometimes cairns lead somewhere else than normal approaches - after all they are not Knafelc's blazes.

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DVas8. 10. 2023 20:53:05

I'll get that literature, thanks a lot.

lijaneja24. 08. 2024 11:44:39

Since I missed the Kačji jezik this year, only the classic approach remained for this year. This time I have a new companion Blaž, young blood who did well in off-trail skills.
We start 'shamelessly' early, watch the lights on the Triglav ridge, walking in pleasant coolness was real balm. At 1148m we turn off the path onto a small ridge and along it to the bench on Brinova glava, where we take a short break. Further on I was a bit worried how the young guy without poles would manage the steep scree under Kopicami, but I had to hurry so he wouldn't switch on the turn signal... nasmeh

We stop only below Grlo, where I spread my wet rags on a boulder and lighten the backpack a bit. From there we spot two figures already climbing towards Grlo. Up top I realize they are young guys who slept in the bivouac and will continue from Oltar towards Visoki Rokav.
Recent storms have greatly changed the landscape, the gully you have to cross above Grlo caused me quite some trouble. From the spruce I climbed right to its top, between rocks there's only a good meter of space, the ascent from there to the top is a tough III, so I rather return, and via the classic route after four hours and two minutes I reach the summit. Weather super, no wind or clouds, photos, book entry and snack, no time for martincanje though, as another summit awaited us, which we climbed already in the heat. From Dovški križ we descend past Šplevta by the bivouac, where we see the fourth person today. Down the scree it was express to the spring, from there to the bottom the knees 'announced' themselves at every step.
While waiting for the van a nice guy with his son picks us up, at half past four we're already at Dana's for dinner...