What's going on with hribi.net?!
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| zokipoki4. 08. 2021 08:52:26 |
Like you wrote, Andrej, one needs to go to the mountains, forest, stream, rocks...
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| VanSims4. 08. 2021 11:23:16 |
"let's leave the man alone"
Yes, but on the other hand you can't ignore that with his behavior he harms society and all of us. That there will be lockdowns, economic problems and ultimately patients because of such. I deliberately didn't write 'dead', because mortality is overemphasized, but there should be five times more sufferers with long-term consequences.
Regarding possible lawsuit, you reminded me. Just in case I'll screenshot the mentioned forum too, though I don't believe admins will delete it. So I have evidence, if he starts rumbling with lawsuits, I can countersue or threaten counterclaim.
Regarding revealing, stalking, ... I can only warn him that I have experience with such situation, which isn't fully closed yet. Really, they've eaten a lot of my nerves and harmed me over the years but it didn't end well for them either. With experience gained I can only be better in next such attack, both in defense and counterattack.
But I don't agree with from ".p.s." onward. Forum is practically not moderated, even though posts come with some delay. Exactly that it still happens what happens negates it. Practically nothing is moderated. Sadly!
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| Trobec4. 08. 2021 13:23:08 |
Moderating a forum, if you want to keep it at some level, isn't easy.
Sure, basically it's a mountain forum where we talk about mountain stuff (current conditions, hike recommendations, weather, gear,...). And although there were excesses before, from arguing about pace, gear, know-it-all, self-praise posts... it was all different. Even with harsh words, it was at least a bit funny.
Now health topics, human rights questions and politics appear. All reflects increasingly tense atmosphere in society itself. So for Rok and Tadej it's surely not easy. For mountaineers the site is still super!
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| Trobec4. 08. 2021 13:31:09 |
And also, since you've already labeled Becar as psychopath, narcissist,... and as such harmful to society (I won't comment on that), I agree such profiles are anything but useful for society.
But... how bad is it when such profiles get to power? How much damage do they cause? How many lockdowns, sick and dead, what economic damage? Can anyone imagine, e.g. psychopath prime minister and pathological narcissist president? Oh...
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 13:53:41 |
Trobec, although I don't read provocateurs anymore, now I see they can't leave me alone, obviously I was a big thorn in their side, made big impression and they still dream about me.
That doesn't move me at all, I have thick skin. But I achieved certain purpose and that's showing how fascis-loving followers in this country treat all anti-covid oriented; from experts, media, lawyers, all the way to little me. It's effort to silence all who aren't for covid "fun". They don't realize that with their way they achieve exactly the opposite of what they want. So we should be somehow grateful to them, because with their extremism they can't hide, they've created big masses that already express protest worldwide, and in our country in my opinion it's coming to surface.
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| VanSims4. 08. 2021 15:08:19 |
"Moderating a forum, if you want to keep it at some level, isn't easy."
OK, but if you see a thread has really gone astray and at the same time has no connection to the portal, then close it. At least that's my opinion.
Otherwise I agree. It's not easy.
"And although there were excesses before, from arguing about pace, gear, know-it-all comments, self-indulgent posts... it was all different. Even with harsh words, it was still at least a bit funny."
Yes, the Covid-19 thread was like that until the appearance of the "Becar" phenomenon.
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| jax4. 08. 2021 15:15:41 |
Come on. It was some other user who started with constant belittling of interlocutors. The one who deleted himself in between.
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| zavest4. 08. 2021 15:16:42 |
One of the meanings of thick skin includes "is offensively rude", so congratulations Becar for brilliant self-reflection
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| jax4. 08. 2021 15:23:21 |
And one more thing I'd say. I'm not sure that deleting this thread would really achieve anything good. First, I'm a priori against arbitrary interventions. The forum must have rules and the thread is deleted if it violates those rules. Not just because the administrator thinks so. In general discussions, the topic can basically be arbitrary and doesn't have to be related to mountains, so it's hard to justify it as inappropriate topic.
Second - do you really think much would be solved by that? Yeah, maybe there would be less political bickering. But - it would happen that posts from this area would gradually start dripping into other, "mountain" threads. And then everyone would be worse off, because there'd be no separation anymore. That's why from a pragmatic view it's better if this thread stays, because then it's exactly clear where we argue about politics, and where we actually debate about mountains.
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 15:54:00 |
I see that soon some book about me will be written, from psychological dissection to analysis of my commie political affiliation....leave them, let them keep laughing 
Now it's exactly clear where the problem of this forum is, I blocked them, so we don't tangle anymore, but obviously there's still no peace
Of course here there are wet dreams about my deletion, and not only that. They want to delete also "disbarred lawyer" dr. Reiner Fuellmich, dr Nada Hiti, and that in their opinion "angry" nurse, Initiative of Slovenian Doctors, Initiative of Slovenian Lawyers, dr. Andraž Teršek, Information Commissioner Mojca Prelesnik, all commies, all "unemployed" protesters, to name just recently mentioned ones, so only Janez with his lawyer and medical phalanx will remain
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 16:02:24 |
- It's raining...
- Are you a meteorologist?
- No... you can see with the naked eye that it's raining.
- Where's that from? Did you find it on Google?
- Sorry... you see the rain falling. Isn't that enough?
- Is there any study that supports your claim?
- What study? Can't you see all my clothes are wet?
- Yeah sure, but that doesn't mean it's actually raining... What sources are you citing?
- What sources??
- I have a friend who works at the meteorological institute who told me there won't be rain today.
- Well what, obviously he was wrong... nothing big.
- Of course... now you know more about rain than him who studied weather phenomena for 10 years...You say that because you're against meteorologists.
- Come on... what are you saying? Can't you see the gray sky and rain falling to the ground now?
- I knew it... another conspiracy theorist...
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| zokipoki4. 08. 2021 16:38:35 |
This section could have the title, what's happening with people?
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| VanSims4. 08. 2021 18:09:56 |
"I'm not sure that deleting this thread would really achieve anything good."
Yeah now it's already too late, Czechia happened, just look at posts under yours.
"Second - do you really think much would be solved by that?"
See above.
"But - it would happen that posts from this area would gradually start dripping into other, 'mountain' threads."
It happened already without that. It actually happened once and admins deleted it.
"it's also better from a pragmatic point of view if this thread stays, because then it's exactly clear where we argue about politics, where we debate about mountains."
It will stop at Austria and Czechia!
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| Trobec4. 08. 2021 18:19:58 |
Yeah this one with rain is really apt...but unfortunately with naked eye you can't see what a person gets sick from. It would be great if it were so...because we'd save millions and millions on expensive tests...but unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 19:17:24 |
Trobec, if I show you black on white that PCT condition is in conflict with EU law, what millions do you need? You read two sentences from the signed resolution and that's it. Leave the millions in the bank. 
That's exactly in that rain analogy. Institutions with their own expensively paid legal services, who should have law at their fingertips, suddenly can't find articles that prohibit any PCT, travel restrictions, quarantines etc... Me and many other ordinary citizens find it in the blink of an eye. These same legal services, say the national TV example, can't tell their editors that their way of advertising vaccination is in conflict with EU law. Isn't that interesting?
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| VanSims4. 08. 2021 20:05:07 |
Hmmm, if only Becar would cheer us up with that article that prohibits PCT,... 
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| Trobec4. 08. 2021 21:00:38 |
Becar, I didn't write about PCT. And I admit you're right in many matters.
Microbiology, immunology, pathophysiology and more of that, maybe better not to dig too much. That's not your strongest field. Better if you deal with law and human rights.
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 21:08:51 |
You see, I agree with that. That's why I don't dig into that field and rather listen to experts and read expert articles. Of course from both sides, that's important to emphasize. Did you get the feeling I'm delving into microbiology? The 0.14% mortality figure is enough for me, I don't need any microbiology knowledge, actually that science doesn't interest me. I'm also not interested in the structure of the PCR test, but I am interested in the statement of the PCR test inventor that they are completely unsuitable for surveillance (the devil is in the cycles, right, you know more about that). And the same statement by a medical court expert at the Berlin court in ongoing processes against the covid mafia by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, as he himself said at a recent appearance in London.
Otherwise, if the head of nijz is a specialist in social medicine and among the smartest on covid in the drug field, why should I then be a specialist say in immunology.
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| Trobec4. 08. 2021 21:58:41 |
"Otherwise if the head of nijz is a specialist in social medicine and among the smartest on covid in the drug field"
You forgot the best: the health minister's deputy is a defense scholar and the epidemic expert group without an epidemiologist
Well, that Mullis statement was a bit taken out of context, and in general Mullis was always a slightly controversial personality... like many geniuses. PCR is an excellent tool, without it there wouldn't be science as we have today. But - like any such thing it needs to be used properly (that's what he mainly aimed at). Example I already mentioned: if an infected person sneezes on a wall and then they take a swab from the wall, the wall will be positive. Some African president already talked about positive pumpkins, cucumbers or something like that.
The number of cycles is another thing, where it can be manipulated. If it's high enough, the result will almost certainly be positive. What the right number of cycles is is a bit arbitrary decision (Mullis didn't like that either). So in diagnostics we shouldn't look only at the PCR result but also at clinical signs.
Still, PCR is much much better than all kinds of rapid tests. Actually it's by far the best thing we have. With proper use of course.
p.s. understanding how PCR test works means you can understand the broader context of the statement and also what's between the lines.
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| Becar4. 08. 2021 22:10:24 |
Yes, but still, now there are already 2 scientists, whom I personally know, who confirmed that with the used number of cycles 97% of tests are false positives.
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