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Which flower is this?

otiv11. 08. 2014 20:39:09

Apolonija, what is this entrance exam? velik nasmeh

I know the garlic from Grmada, the first one seems familiar somehow, its leaves. The last one is somehow similar to preobjeda zmeden

Now I remembered, the second one I saw on Uršlja gora, Kortuzovka it says in my notes nasmeh

dleskovec11. 08. 2014 21:30:32

Greetings "mountain flowers" friends!

During a nice weekend with PD friends I did a nice and demanding tour:
-Saturday: from Vrata over Prag to Kredarica, to the top of our "daddy" (9 hrs);
-Sunday: from Kredarica past Planika hut to Dolič, over Hribarice to Prehodavci hut;
- and now the reason for my writing: path from Prehodavci through Seven Lakes valley to 7th lake hut is the most beautiful thing I experienced; whole path is pure idyll of mountain flowers. As they say "everything's there", whole valley blooms and smells. Shame to do this path in group whose only goal is quick "to beer". No camera with me, can't hold others with photos; few with GSM, but poor quality. Recommend all: walk this blooming path let time stop. I'll return soon to this blooming valley to "feed" eyes and soul. Greetings!

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Apolonija11. 08. 2014 21:45:56

Bravo, otiv, bravo! You passed the exam nasmeh

It is kortuzovka indeed and grows only there in Slovenia and on Peč and in Hudi luknja. That's why I wondered if you know it. It belongs to gentians. You got the third one too. It's red climbing preobjeda. Best

dleskovec11. 08. 2014 22:02:46

Sorry; last pic not "arnika", but "gentian flower". Best

Apolonija11. 08. 2014 22:26:45

dleskovec, you made me really envious talking with such passion about these wonderful alpine gardens. You must go up again with camera.

4 šebenik (Kranj one?)
5- several flowers: top left alpine wormwood, bottom slanozor (alpine lepnica), most (yellow) nokote
6- golden dimek
7- krvomočnica, not silver-looking, but forest one
and 8 Tut tut dleskovec! Arnica flower? Check it here: http://www.google.si/search?q=arnika&nord=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=PCbpU-X7AuL4yQPA74CAAw&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=909

I know. You mixed up. You meant something else in alcohol, something very bitter nasmeh

On the pic dried yellow gentian. Best

Apolonija11. 08. 2014 22:28:43

dleskovec, while I was typing slowly you already fixed the slip, let it be....

zlatica12. 08. 2014 16:40:08

Otiv, back note- on p. 111 I infinitely enjoyed your photos.., as always very beautiful.

Now some of my flowers from Friday and Saturday path from Koča to Vrbanove špice and Rjavina and around Staničev dom. Since path quite demanding, less time for flower photos, but still some made. Most interested in differences between both gentians.

Zois' bellflowers and Clusius' cinquefoil

The only bunch of early purple orchids on the path

What will it be like when the whole cushion of Triglav pinks blooms?

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otiv12. 08. 2014 17:30:57

@zlatica, I'm glad I took you there to the mountain world, but your photos are also worth a school grade of five. From the pictures it looks like you had a good time, even the sun painted the sky for you so everything was just as your eye wished. nasmeh

zlatica12. 08. 2014 18:59:17

Oh, Otiv, how melodiously your words read..... It was really nice, but sometimes tough on my legs too, but in memory only what is beautiful for the soul and eye remains.
What about my gentians and edelweiss that torment me? Would you know what to say about that?
Maybe Apolonija or someone else will solve this riddle too?

Apolonija12. 08. 2014 19:24:10

Zlatica, I think the first gentian is Triglav one, rosette leaves are smaller than stem ones. The second is probably dwarf gentian- (Gentiana pumila). It is similar to spring one, but smaller.
I think you named edelweiss correctly and they seem the same to me. nasmeh

zlatica12. 08. 2014 19:36:15

Apolonija, you cheered me up with your opinion and finding. That could be it, because the Triglav gentian according to the web has different leaves, rosettes as you say, while this other has pointed ones.
Regarding edelweiss I wasn't sure either if they are exactly the same.

velkavrh12. 08. 2014 20:12:52

zlatica, I'm glad you replaced me so successfully. I have a remark only on the white poppy identification. It really is Sendtner's poppy, which with us appears as its subspecies - called Julian poppy - Papaver alpinum ssp. ernesti-mayeri.

zlatica13. 08. 2014 08:53:31

Velkavrh, thanks for the additional explanation. Of course I didn't know that. Anyway, I wouldn't call it replacement, it's just one more "flower enthusiast" who would like to learn more in this field from each of you, since only in my more mature years have I started developing this kind of enthusiasm. So I still have a lot of room for learning.... zadrega

Apolonija13. 08. 2014 10:00:38

zlatica, good morning! Quite a few of us started in mature years and now learn from each other. Velkavrh already has a lot of knowledge and "practice". As for poppies it's not that hard. Alpine poppy (Papaver alpinum) is white and yellow, and some can surprise with another shade (orange). Then there are different subspecies depending on the area where they grow. So your "subspecies" is at home in Austria, with us it's the Julian one. You can't miss it. There are more yellow ones with us. In Karavanke and KSA usually Kerner's (Papaver alpinum subsp. kerneri), in the Julian Alps it's Rhaetian poppy (Papaver alpinum subsp. rhaeticum) except in Bohinj-Krn group where Petkovšek's poppy grows (Papaver alpinum subsp. victoris). That means: one white alpine poppy and three yellow ones. I repeat also for myself nasmeh

Best regards

zlatica13. 08. 2014 14:24:01

Here, Apolonija, I know a bit more again. Really, thank you. About yellow poppies I already delved a little into the difference between Kerner's and Rhaetian, but wasn't quite sure when is one and when the other, Petkovšek's I haven't even encountered in literature, let alone in nature, or maybe. About whites I didn't know much at all. Ah, how nice it is when people are kind and share their knowledge. greeting mežikanje

Apolonija13. 08. 2014 19:14:29

You can find more here:

http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/90717/

http://www.zaplana.net/flowers/Papaveraceae/PapaverAlpinumKerneri(KernerjevMak)/si_PapaverAlpinumKerneri(KernerjevMak).asp

zlatica14. 08. 2014 08:48:41

Apolonija, thanks, really good information, vivid, with photos. Already taking note,,,, velik nasmeh

velkavrh14. 08. 2014 11:59:41

Since I have time, I delved a bit into chickweeds. Maybe I've mentioned this topic before. Chickweeds belong to the pink family - in Latin Caryophyllaceae. The Latin name for chickweeds is Cerastium. Then the Latin species name is added. According to Flora Alpina and Hoppe, there are as many as 24 species in our alpine area. Perhaps some species have a different Slovenian translation in Hoppe than in Flora Alpina. Translators were different. I didn't delve that deep. I haven't seen what our botanists think about it. I've already inquired with our botanists, but their answers didn't satisfy me.

When identifying chickweeds, it's very important what kind of flower they have, what the growth is like, how many flowers on the stem, what the leaves are like - identifiability is problematic.

I can't claim my identifications are correct. I'm forwarding some of my photos.

This should be the rock edelweiss - found on Kalški greben.

This edelweiss habitat is almost under Triglav summit and is most likely single-flowered.

I photographed this edelweiss habitat this year at Orožmova koča on Planina za Lišcem. It was distinctly tall-stemmed. That's the Carinthian one. It is written that it is the highest, with multiple flowers on the stem.

These three edelweiss shots I took this year on Planina za Črno goro and they seem the same as on the previous picture.

On Določu I photographed these. It looks like there is only one flower on one stem.

GITA14. 08. 2014 14:10:19

On the path Vogel - Komna and on Planina na Kraju, a couple of photos of flowers were taken that I don't know by name... I tried identifying them, but still ask for your help... Thanks nasmeh