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Apolonija27. 09. 2013 17:03:27

Vito, thanks. Are you that gentleman in the foreground? nasmeh

otiv27. 09. 2013 17:14:18

Of course, Apolonija, and yesterday we were good too. nasmeh

Especially along the wonderful path. velik nasmeh

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velkavrh27. 09. 2013 18:28:04

Autumn discussion on gentians. In autumn three representatives grow in the broader sense: fringed gentianella - Gentianella ciliata, silky gentian or kokoševčevolistni and also called candle - Gentiana asclepiadea, and large group of so-called cup gentianellas. These are all violet-colored, flowers very similar - hard to identify. Field gentianella - Gentianella campestris - does not grow here, Liburnian grows only on Snežnik. Dwarf - Gentianella nana - does not grow here. Delicate gentianella - Gentianella tenella - is extremely rare. Cup gentianella - Gentianella anisodonta - several subspecies exist, German gentianella Gentianella germanica - several subspecies exist, Austrian gentianella - several subspecies exist, early gentianella - several subspecies exist. Literature also mentions hairy - Gentianella pilosa and rough gentianella - Gentianella aspera. I didn't forget our big autumn gentian - Froelich's gentian - Gentiana froelichii. Towards the end of summer, cross-leaved and Pannonic gentians also flower.

So a demanding matter for identification.

Now we see it in valley forests, on edges of pastures, along mountain paths in the forest.

Fringed gentianella cannot be confused - it is the only one with four corolla lobes that have fringes.

Beautiful blue flower. Found at 800m altitude - e.g. Stiška vas up to the end of the dwarf pine belt where trumpet gentianellas replace it.

This should be Austrian gentianella - Gentianella austriaca. Recognized by the cymose inflorescence at about the same height and by calyx teeth longer than the calyx tube.

These specimens found on path to Dolkovo špica 14.09.2013. This gentianella grows in Western Slovenia where this peak belongs.

This one found a week earlier on Dolkovi špici.

This one found on path to Mangart 11.08.2013 right at bivouac on Kotovo sedlo.

This should be the early gentian-Gentianella lutescens. This was found near Češki koča on Spodnje Ravne.

This should be the German gentian-Gentianella germanica from the tour to Montaž on planina Pecol. Leaves oppositely arranged, autumn plants strongly branched and can have up to 50 flowers, spring ones less branched.

Froelich's gentian-this year I found it only on the path to Rinke above Ledine on those nice pastures below the saddle.

Pannonian gentian-Gentiana pannonica. This one this year from Zelenice-right below the hut on that meadow left of the copse.

Cross-leaved gentian-Gentiana cruciata-found this year on Kriška planina below Krvavec-I find it there every year on the pasture.

velkavrh28. 09. 2013 06:39:17

Before I go somewhere, a short discussion on Dipsacaceae. In spring meadows are full of knautias: greater - Knautia drymeia and field - Knautia arvensis. They differ by leaves - the field one has upper leaves pinnately lobed. We also have forest - Knautia dipsacifolia and long-leaved - Knautia longifolia - grows in mid-mountains. Further we encounter more rarely meadow Succisa pratensis. This year I haven't seen it yet - last year on the path around Brdo Castle. The next group are scabious. Field scabious - Scabiosa triandra - I don't see. On mountain paths, however, there are plenty of common scabious - Scabiosa columbaria - and shining scabious - Scabiosa lucida subsp. lucida.

Flower of ogersko milkwort-recognized by the leaves.

Woodland helleborine - flower - recognizable by the longer green bract leaves which are well visible in the picture. Pictures of long-leaved and field helleborine currently unavailable.

velkavrh28. 09. 2013 18:41:34

Autumn is here with its fog, dew and moisture. The very last rosy greeting from the Krvavec end - this time from Kompotela, Mokrice and Košutna.

Already on Planina Jezerce the chickenfoot pasqueflower blooms abundantly.

Today I rarely found a dry flower—all were mostly wet, a bit crumpled—even the woolly sviščevec is like that—found right on Planina Jezerce.

I find opposite-leaved pasqueflower on Kriška planina.

As I descend towards Planina Koren there are many turnip sawflies.

Common cyclamens delight us from spring onwards.

Next to it grew this white-coloured one - not wilted.

Alpine bartsia - unfortunately unsuccessful photo.

Round-leaved bellflower - completely wet.

Rocks are turning red - autumn colouring.

Surprise on Koren pasture and Košutna pasture - flowering of Wulfen's rampion.

On the Mokrice ridge grew edelweiss and hairy fescue together.

Here I also find blue-green rock speedwell - leaves.

I even found one still flowering - unfortunately the flowers blurred or escaped.

There are still quite a few yellow flowers that I cannot identify.

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francimedved28. 09. 2013 23:59:51

So that we're not just walking in the hills, here's something from Kamenjak near Premantura, where there are also excellent tours for slightly older hikers. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether that yellow flower is goldenrod. Thanks.

velkavrh29. 09. 2013 06:02:52

Franci, I would go to the sea too. Unfortunately not possible this year. One and two years ago I was learning seaside plants on Hvar island. This much I remember:

no.2-sage
no. 6,7 and 17 -amethyst vetchling
clustered fruits under 8,9,10 and 36 extremely interesting, but don't know what it is.
no.12-juniper-berries-good for schnapps
no. 13-maybe mastic tree, if I remember right-not sure.
no. 22-devil's-bit
no. 26 -agave, which shoots a tall, huge stem and flowers at top, then dies.
no. 27-bougainvillea-known ornamental climber or shrub.
no. 28. and 29.-sea fennel
no. 33-definitely palm, just don't know which.
no. 34-more resembles cotoneaster fruits than rosehip. That's rose family and have similar fruits-hips.
no. 23-remember well that blue flower which like some kind of dry rush overgrows seaside rocks-forgot name.
no. 21-pointed asparagus.
no. 20-calamintha-belongs to labiates.
no. 15-that interesting thorny plant with interesting leaves-climber I saw flowering by stone scarps-forgot name.

Those yellow flowers you photographed several times I don't know. But I think not goldenrod.

Here I don't usually post sea plants, but must show Franci what most interesting I found on Hvar.

I know the previous one, but not the next two beautifully flowering shrubs. It is svinčnica.

It took me some time to figure out that this plant is a caper bush.

It has such a wonderful flower; the unripe buds are a wonderful delicacy - known as capers.

Opuntia - this cactus is flowering and already has ripe fruits. The taste did not impress me.

This is how the agave looks when it flowers - magnificent.

These are the blue-coloured shrubs on the rocks - mrežica.

This is that spiny climber - common blušč.

I also found one species of yucca. There are supposedly 200 species of yucca in the world.

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 09:52:45

Coastal plants are really pleasant for these cold, wet days.

"clustered fruits under 8,9,10 and 36" is common pokeweed /Phytolacca americana/

no. 13- is mastic tree /Pistacia lentiscus/

no. 33 coconut palm

no. 23 sea lavender /Limonium/

no. 20 winter savory /Satureja montana/

no.15 common bryony /Tamus communis/
The yellow plant is probably sticky Inula /Inula viscosa/

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 10:05:48

Brane, hi!

leadwort (Plumbago capensis)
yellow bird of paradise (Caesalpinia gilliesii)
sea lavender (Limonium)
and common bryony or black bryony /Tamus communis/

Best regards

velkavrh29. 09. 2013 10:34:08

Savory, savory plant or calamint are supposed to mean the same. Maybe the picture was too poor and Alenka identified it as a type of mint. But I correctly identified the mastic tree as you saw. Otherwise, in two years I photographed around a hundred flowering plants on Hvar-some also in gardens-interesting ones that don't grow outdoors with us. Alenka identified most for me. One third remained unidentified. Today I'm researching hawkweeds in detail-rocky and common hawkweed, and Fuchs' and woodland hawkweed, which I still can't distinguish somehow. I have only six hawkweeds in my narrower list.

Unfortunately, my nicer picture got lost somewhere.

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 10:51:45

Savory, savory plant or calamint are supposed to mean the same? They don't mean the same.

Alpine calamint = alpine savory plant = Acinos alpinus

Savory grows with us as dwarf savory = Satureja subspicata and karst savory = Satureja montana

Look at the pictures and you'll see quite a big difference. I have all three in the garden. nasmeh

I think the yellow plant at Franci's is sticky Inula (Inula viscosa). What do you think?

Of course I saw that you correctly identified the mastic tree, I just wanted to confirm it.

Some gardeners also write labiate instead of lip /lip/ nasmeh

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 11:24:23

Of course I don't have enough knowledge and data to identify your labiate. I just know that Micromeria dalmatica is endemic in Dalmatia and that Calamintha subnuda = Dalmatian calamint exists

But I agree that you correctly wrote at Franci's that it could be Calamintha, which we also translate as calamint and I rushed with too "precise" identification.
http://agrozoo.net/jsp/Thesaurus.jsp?p3=670562ecb23311df864f001cc081f832

velkavrh29. 09. 2013 12:06:00

I reviewed all about the Inulas and I quite agree. With my two unidentified low yellows I get nowhere. I reviewed all 25 hawkweeds on my list; bell hawkweeds, egg hawkweeds, common hawkweeds and even alpine dandelion. Alenka identified the Calamintha for me.

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 14:25:24

When I have time, I'll look at the yellows, probably won't help you. Have you returned the books yet?
The labiate family-Lamiaceae has over 230 genera. Among them are
Acinos- in Slovenian savory plant,
Calamintha (calamint),
Satureja (savory).

Why do we say alpine savory plant or calamint? Does it belong to genus Acinos or now to genus Calamintha? I saw synonym Calamintha alpina for it.

Savory surely belongs to genus Satureja. Satureja montana grows in Istria, so I first thought it was that on the picture. Judging by the leaves, it's more a Calamintha species???

francimedved29. 09. 2013 15:21:53

Thank you for the comments and explanations of the photos from Kamenjak. But I must also say that the plants in photos 1,4,5 are edible and very good, I don't know the names. Fishermen used them in the past in diet as salad. I got to know them on a trip to Sečovlje salt pans and they are protected, as the guide said. Then also for the cluster fruits, photos no. 8,9,10 and 36, locals told me that some soak them in water to get a bitter drink to quench thirst. I tried them, but they are extremely bitter, inedible for me. Best regards Franci.

Apolonija29. 09. 2013 17:30:56

Franci, the plant under 1,4,5 is a shrublet, stems consist of segments, see? Then it's shrubby glasswort /Sarcocornia fruticosa/.

I have pokeweed in the garden. Birds eat the berries, I haven't tried them yet, they sow it like that. It's used for homeopathic remedies.

velkavrh6. 10. 2013 11:23:09

On the hike to Svačica, pictures of even the last flowering mountain flowers won't be missing, I'll upload them in a day or so. On the way to Vrtača saddle I found a huge stand of edelweiss. Various bellflowers, rockjasmins, thistles and more can still be found, I could list more. Common cyclamens have been flowering since late spring. Now it's also time for primroses and silky-leaved primrose.
Right on top of Svačica I found flowering alpine cat's-ear. At the top of Svačica it was so cold that I had to put on gloves and a hat with earflaps. Winter is approaching us.

On the ski slope common goat's beard is still blooming.

Hairy fleabane is already slightly losing its blue color.

On the ski slope, jajčar or otavič still persists.

The species should be identifiable by these reddish leaves.

I don't know this fern - but it is beautiful.

On the right bank before the hut at Zelenica, čašasti sviščevec begins.

In the Grad area - extensive screes under Vrtača on the path to Beljščica saddle above the path, large edelweiss growths in the rocks.

Edelweiss mixes with this redness on the rocks.

On those grassy meadows before Beljčica saddle there is still plenty of various flowers - shining grintavec.

Now is also the time for various eyebrights.

I even find flowering evergreen kamnokreč, and also the crusty one.

Right on the top of Svačica I find alpine repnjak.

Already wilted skalno prerast. Nearby I found even zoisovo zvončico.

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Apolonija9. 10. 2013 21:01:13

Brane, I think on the fifth picture it's bristle-leaved clubmoss /Lycopodium/. Best regards

velkavrh20. 10. 2013 13:53:19

These are really the very last flowery greetings of this year from yesterday's tour over four Pokljuka two-thousanders.

The cup-shaped alpine gentian is really the last autumn mountain flower. No matter how late, it always seeds.

Usually the habitats of the fringed alpine gentian - in the picture - and the cup-shaped one intertwine. When we go higher, the fringed one runs out.

The cross-leaved gentian has already finished blooming on Konjščica pasture.

This is one of the smaller gentians - I'm not sure if it's really the Triglav one.

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otiv20. 10. 2013 19:16:00

The flower season is coming to an end,
our little pictures tell how it was in paradise.

Heartfelt thanks to everyone,
that the beauty of flowers has reached us.

One can't always be everywhere,
so gladly looks to see what flowers there are elsewhere.

Blooming cactus isn't from the mountains,
but its beauty still reaches the heart.

Best greetings to all flower lovers! nasmeh