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Our 3-day trip from Vrata via Triglav to Planina pri Jezeru, we finished yesterday with a loop tour over Vogle, Vršaki and Debeli vrh.
Start at Planina pri Jezeru, Dedno polje, after approx. 20 min we turned right onto a visible path towards the start of Voglov. Before the last Vogl, about 50m below the summit where there's a small saddle, we descended towards Globoka Konta, found nice passages. From there the path towards Vršaki is indicated at the start of the scree, then you zigzag up to the far right edge of the Vršakov ridge. On the Vršakov ridge we had fantastic views, the path continued towards Debeli vrh. Climbing the ridge and enjoying the sun and views. To Lazovški preval we descended over red scree and on to the Hut on Planina pri Jezeru. Enjoying the solitude.

A and J

,,when you have the mountains all to yourself,,
Today was such a day. Start at the 3rd serpentine then to Krnica and along the ,,standard route to Velika Dnina. Janez and I agreed to visit the bivouac on the way back. We did the first pitch far left and all that still nicely on poles. Along the way we fixed some cairns; anyway, we enjoyed the silence, views and sun. The second pitch we did along the ,,classic,,. Nice climbing, not too demanding and we were already at the summit. Alone, no one anywhere...well on Škrlatica there were some. We took a short break, then, since the sun was already quite strong, we decided to rest at the bivouac. FANTASY. (lying until it hurts) But since it was only early afternoon, the idea came for MMP too. Then descent towards Martuljek. Ascent to MMP was kind of 2 steps forward and one back, scree, scree, scree, and snow on top. But we successfully climbed to the top. In the direction from the saddle towards Kotli there's still snow and we used ice axe and crampons. Approx. 100m. Then we went to Mečesne and to the valley, where transport was already waiting for us. Great day. I hope there will be more such.

Regards A and J

The problem is also that below the ramp there are other starting points that have nothing to do with parking on Vršič. It would really be necessary to check if these ramps in Vrata and Vršič even have legal basis. This is just for ,,cashing in,, cash and nothing else.....and soon only ,,rich,, will hike to mountains, because everyone will start doing the same....I'm afraid!!!!!

Uf, under the boulder there's already a ,,ornk,, passage. When I went the first time, I barely crawled under there.
Congrats, nice tour

ok...maybe they have 50% off, since they have membership card for thieves

we're here arguing and writing....in real world they'll rip us off so we'll squeal..

uf... we've really written a lot here... Lingo, do you still live in the time when "fičo" was the best car and the highway was built from LJ - Vrhnika, jobs from 6-14, and no boss called you after that hour and holidays, if on weekend, were moved to workday?!!!!
- they say it's not like that anymore... time goes much faster eh
it really annoys me that after paying all taxes and PZS membership you have no benefits in our mountains for parking fees before tourists..
- in Paklenica (once again) with Slovenian PZS card you get 50% discount on ticket and parking fee....
ps. I've always paid and will pay parking, I'm not against payment... I'M AGAINST ROBBERY AND CLOSING VALLEYS

The mayor said the state is building the barrier in Vrata and Vršič, they just manage it. The barrier is a pigsty, closing off space like that. If you have time, go by public transport, if not, go by car. But here we pay taxes and PZS membership fee, and you have no advantages over foreigners - tourists who come to the valley, take pics and drive out. And like that all day.... then the one who goes to the mountains pays like a pig because he was in the mountains all day. Meh no point.... if the barrier is normal for you...

There are complaints, there are... believe me

Just this too...in the article in news on this site it says PZS membership increased....imagine if a crowd of 64000 members gathers in front of town halls in Kr.g.,Bohinj,Jezersko and PZS office demanding things get properly sorted....would be interesting

I heard that too and it pissed me off totally... 'cause I have no nice words left for such people with that thinking..

PS. If they're driving away hikers this way...then I suggest the markers remove all chains, pegs, staples VN from paths and repaint markings....then we'll see how much money they'll get from parking

I know... forgot to mention Bohinj and Jezersko too... same there... good we're not an ,,alpine,, nation

No, you don't get it or you're losing focus.... It's about removing nonsense no matter the cause.... I wrote before under green agenda and traffic reduction they are setting up a system that only hinders or greatly raises the cost of mountain visits.... Tourists won't be fewer nor cars, on the contrary more, because they will drive up and down for free or minimal money... be it Vrata valley or Vršič.... Again, no problem paying for organized p.p. but to be robbed, no... and to literally close access for a certain time, locals drive undisturbed even if they have only one sqm in a shed.. yeah, wrong world... from lj, I see daily columns rolling in and out of lj... what if we put up a barrier here with 25eur pass and close the city on certain days for peace.... you get it's sarcasm... only what they do in Kr.g. is not ok... soon they will close all valleys... again disappointed in PZS...

Maribor radar scenario wouldn't be bad... but if politicians already corrupt I'm max disappointed in PZS leadership.... which does nothing for Slovenian hiker paying membership...

OK... RTV news just now... barrier on Vršič...

What does this post mean... that they continue robbing hikers, tourists for free?!

maybe a little ,,saw,, will solve the situation for a moment