Mali Gobar - Recent messages

Yes, probably because in the orientation-critical part the logical direction is wrong. Most also mistake the entry - the most obvious entry is wrong too and after ca. 50 m you cross left through tedious scrub.

Good question Haven't seen it in any guidebook myself. Not even for the classic winter variant. Well, if push comes to shove, I can put something together 'for friends', as they say.

If you looked at the description that Google finds, then you're right - that's the wrong description. The summer variant of Bosova grapa is indeed a bit tricky orientation-wise. That's why it's all the more beautiful ...

That's not Bosova gully. The entry photo is already wrong. The spot in the photo is to the right of the entry into Bosova gully. There, where after about 10 min you turned left and soon reached the ridge, you should have turned right. You walked about 1/4 of Bosova gully. Attaching photo of the real entry.

LG, you quote GRS posts just as well as you master your native language. Your posts have no connection to GRS, mountain safety or anything useful to a normal person. Anyway flapho already gave you free diagnosis. ...

Yeah, you nicely wait for IV, sure is sure.

Mitja, I don't doubt it at all But at that time we didn't see them, and later I haven't climbed there anymore. The descriptions didn't say much either - but the twisted smiles of the old veterans and GV who know the upper part well were more talkative later While we're at it, GV is the law for such things anyway.

Of course, the Long German route takes you all the way to the top of Triglav in its full version. A few years ago I climbed it on this variant with Juš Avguštin, but need to add that the start of the north ridge is very loose and you have to be very careful, also on climbers below the ridge, because rocks fly easily. Higher up towards the summit the rock is excellent. You can read more here: Long German

From the classic path the path to Bosova grapa starts where the path turns right upwards towards Pastirci. There you cross Studenec and continue straight up over scree. Watch not to stray too far right into the obvious gully but more left among the pines to the first jump. Then the gully continues very logically to the second jump - there Bosova grapa goes right over the jump, left continues the branch towards Captain's Ridge. The jump can be bypassed on the left variant and return above it to Bosova grapa via scrub (the passage is visible because it's trodden).

@Lizika, when Durce Durice happens there'll be at least our gang's punt, probably not the only one.
@Bobaje good suggestion.

redbull, by the hut in Kamniška Bistrica there is a clear sign. Regarding rangers up there I know they were and gave quite some 'awards'. Ban reason per mayor mainly road damage dangerous in spots. Happened to me almost local waiting for driver ahead to get unstuck from road too much for him.

Since some 'big shots' didn't like me defending Juš Avgustin and made it clear I'm not welcome here (even via PMs), they called me an extremist etc. and I said I won't write anything more. Let whoever wants write about conditions, obviously no excessive crowds on serious tours from the posts. Still I'll write these few words, because it's right that someone says it.

Yesterday with the excommunicated #1 I visited the famous PP4 – and now I understand that you don't throw pearls before swine even more so. Lucky that 99.9% of the loudest, most critical and savvy bigheads here anyway can't get from one marker to another. So more left for all the others who aren't into dogmatic-religious approach to mountaineering and alpinism, but mainly personal experience that few are willing to share with others. And since the problem in the end is even that the only interesting thing in a pile of useless impressions from more or less Sunday outings is declared extremism and ego-trip of a handful of those who bothered to write the only useful thing here, there's no sense in convincing the convinced. Being a mountain lover is the easiest. However you understand it.

Safe steps wherever you go. I promise not to show up in this elite cream anymore, so as not to unnecessarily and unjustly upset the orthodox and only salvific elite, which really isn't lacking on this forum. Pity only that from it besides negativity there's no other benefit.

Special regards to all those who send me PMs with content I'd be ashamed of. It speaks for you.

Jalovec is indeed specific, but definitely in given conditions not suitable for beginners. With experienced it's pure pleasure and "must see - must do" ascent.

@ Arafat76 - nicely written! But the photo of 4 brave guys on top wins!

Slowly it's time to introduce forum recognition badges or something like that, so we identify on the way up and then easier find each other at "that dewy" below