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Wonderful report, I was swept away.

Last Friday the upper 150 meters were still pretty icy all along the path and quite tricky to descend. But it was possible without crampons, just slower and to the side. Today it's probably better, but there's definitely still some ice or snow on the path.

Me too, and if you can add a bit about the conditions.

It's made and quite solidly. The lower part is messed up from morning snowfall, 2-3 cm, so yes, snow from K.Bistrica.

Tominškova is snow-free.

Hi.
I was up on Sunday, went up via Tominškova and down over Prag. All dry. All three paths, even from Kot, join at Staničeva koča and then the path to Cmir is the same.

What do I know. From Vrata you can do a loop, from Kot back the same way unless up climbing over Vrbanova špica. Don't know that one.

Each is nice in its own way, hard to decide. Definitely both paths from Vrata are more scenic.

If you like pegs and cables choose the path from Vrata, otherwise go from Kot. And if you go up Tominškova, most of the ascent will be in shade.

Ms_primoz, read the forum sections first before starting to complain with your emphases, one is mountain running too. http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&

Well, finally, I guessed something too.
Just keep going...

Is it perhaps on the path over Sovatna?

Yeah, edit the post and then write to Franci that he's unaccountable and talking to himself. Really cool right.

Quoting VanSims:
"And - they were non-anonymous. That's why it was much easier to push them out. Because if they wanted to resist the provocateurs they would have to lower to their level or start hitting back! That would harm especially those who are publicly exposed also outside the portal.

So this is the purpose of the hunt for non-anonymity: so that unwanted portal members can be more easily 'dragged down'. Honest and well-meaning members (those easiest to drag) will register with their real names and surnames, provocative and negative accounts will be equipped with fake data."

Yeah, I have to save this properly, because this is some kind of genius.
Admin, are you reading?

VanSims seems to be editing his posts again, good thing someone quotes him sometimes so we have a memory.

How nice to talk and write about those who don't hide behind nicknames, about their personal life and insult them and invent things about them from the safe bulwark of anonymity.

Becar, I agree that the forum's quality is hampered by non-argumentative responses, so I'll reply anyway, although I think my stance is clear from previous posts. And I too am slowly getting fed up with you, if we're at it.
This is what you wrote last.

"Dear hribi.net users. Instead of supporting me in the fight against individuals who:
- have multiple usernames and repeatedly give minuses to targeted victims
- rate the best photos with the lowest score
- give minuses to someone who just posts route conditions,
you preferred to mock the idea, start needling on a personal level and divert attention to other topics.
And among other things, that's why the forum will remain at this level. Do we deserve better? Apparently not. BECAUSE WE PREFER TO QUARREL RATHER THAN DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE."

My response to this is, yes, I don't fully agree with you because in my opinion you have the wrong approach and debating who gives pluses and who gives minuses to whom is ridiculous and trivial and won't solve anything and I don't intend to get into it.

Then let this plus/minus system be abolished if it causes so much grief, at the same time delete users (possibly with prior warning) who obviously only insult and provoke and not just delete their tasteless and offensive messages. I'll go further and add that the peak of tastelessness is the admin's arbitrary changing (shortening, splitting) of users' posts without prior warning, explanation or author's consent. This sometimes completely loses the meaning of the post, as it's taken out of context and additionally altered, same as if the admin wrote a post in my name without my consent.

I'm not talking about posts like Peter46, that's clearly ripe for full user deletion. Without warning or explanation.

I believe adminning is an annoying thing, but the forum's quality depends on it and it's been pointed out more than once that quality is declining.

I'm participating in this thread exclusively because I want the admins to wake up a bit. But obviously wasting time if Peter46, a great example of forum flaws, is still among us.

I read it, just don't agree.

@Becar: Yeah? Is that why, because I stick to my position, just like you?