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Tadej26. 01. 2008 16:21:37
Today I drove over Korensko sedlo to Beljak and then on the bypass towards Spittal to Judendorf settlement, where there are signs for Beljaško alpsko cesto (Villacher Alpenstrasse). The road is clear all the way to the starting point at 1732m, where there's also a large arranged parking lot.
I continued on the snowy mountain road towards Dobratsch summit. The road to the hut (Ludwig Walter Hütte) is groomed so the path is nicely passable and suitable for families with kids.
At the top wonderful view from Kamnik-Savinja Alps, Karawanks, Julian Alps, Carnic Alps and Gailtal Alps to High Tauern.
LP Tadej
Dobratsch Path to Dobrač.1
Dobratsch Winter idyll on Dobrač.2
Dobratsch Winter idyll on Dobrač.3
Dobratsch View of Dobrač, on which stands a 160m high television tower.4
Dobratsch Mountain hut a little below the summit (Ludwig Walter Hütte).5
Dobratsch Church on the summit.6
Dobratsch View of Dobrač peak.7
Dobratsch Cross on the summit.8
Dobratsch Slovenian church on Dobrač, left behind Julian Alps, right Carnic Alps and below Lower Gail Valley.9
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Guest26. 01. 2008 22:28:35
Do you need to pay any toll? Regards!
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Tadej27. 01. 2008 08:00:04
Yesterday they didn't collect it. When they do it's 13€.
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Guest27. 01. 2008 10:48:35
How much time did you spend from parking lot to the top?
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Tadej27. 01. 2008 14:13:18
Approximately 1h 15min of moderate hiking.
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Planinček19. 02. 2008 20:06:04
On Sunday I was up there. Road clear to the parking lot, path to the top trampled. At the top I felt like at home, since there were lots of Slovenes. Cheers
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klavdipo1. 02. 2010 09:03:31
Is the Ludwig Walter Hütte hut open this winter?
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2061alessio14. 12. 2010 17:40:30
The hut they completely demolished in summer and now newly built with new technology, I was up end of November in real snow storm (visibility max. 10 meters), they plan to open before end of December, at least I'll say when they tell me news.
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2061alessio30. 12. 2010 16:29:29
hi, before Christmas they opened newly built hut Ludwig Walter Haus, check on http://www.alpenverein.at/villach/home www.alpenverein.at/villach/home.....
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viharnik30. 12. 2010 16:58:23
Thanks Alessio, on this link it will be easier to find the hut http://www.alpenverein.at/huettenHome/DE/Home/index.php?huetteNr=0146
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atoamac24. 01. 2011 12:54:18
Yesterday I was up there. Austrians had anniversary of landslide/earthquake, almost a holiday and people like on Šmarna gora. Snow ca. half a meter. Asphalt road clear to the last parking lot, path to the top trampled. Suitable for walkers, ski tourers and snowshoers, only summit ridge behind German church a bit icy. New hut below it open and full. Track of the 2003 abandoned ski slope was groomed, last week it got some cm of powder on the base. Skied to parking in the valley. Views phenomenal, camera though mrk pogled at home.
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ladko31. 01. 2011 20:25:32
And who knows where the stamp for Dobratsch is?
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heinz8. 02. 2011 20:34:11
Today it was nice on this -by far the easiest accessible 2-thousander around. Tower really attractive.
Otherwise - mecca for ski touring..
Hut or its modern look reminds more of a railway station than a mountain hut.
Villacher Alpenstrasse really not payable now (thank god). Well arranged..
Otherwise Dobratsch has "mountain" status - more due to altitude than anything else. Actually a tourist destination,...which is interesting, special due to arrangement, ok, etc...
Views very pleasant!
Skiers and hikers in all kinds of footwear - plenty.
Day was -nice. To Dobratsch: probably again..
Lp!
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before the goal3
strange hut4
Alpine corals5
fossils - snails or something like that..6
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rs75626. 04. 2011 11:02:19
On Saturday 23.4.2011 - circular tour to Dobratsch.
Route Korensko sedlo-Podklošter(Arnoldstein)-Čajna(Notsch)- Čače(Saak). We cross the railway track and the Gail river. Through the village Čače and at the end of the village turn left onto the asphalt road, also intended for cyclists and runs along the Gail river (river on our right). After 2.5km straight drive, we park on the gravel road limited by a barrier on the left side right next to the asphalt road. Up the gravel 1km, then a red arrow on the tree, larger cairn and red-white-red marking directs us right. Well marked, wonderfully routed, forest, safe, scenic path brings us to the summit ridge of Dobratsch. On the ridge just a walk among low pines to the top. From vehicle to top 4 hours.
Return classically along the gravel road to the larger parking lot. Only here along the road - occasionally shorten bends by crossing through the forest to the ALPENGARDEN park attraction.
The park is on our right side along the main road for 1km length. Runs above the precipitous Red cliff, well secured with fence on both sides worth seeing. At the end of the park
right next to the main road the sign-mark-Arnoldstein directs us right. Well visible excellently marked forest path safely leads us to the log cabin-inn right next to the asphalt cycle path in the valley. Right behind the inn turn right and along the asphalt road by the Gail river (now on our left side) after 2.5km we reach the vehicle and start of our path. Circle is closed. From top to vehicle
we walk 3 hours.
Parking lot at the barrier1
Start of the path2
View back3
Rest and view4
On scree5
By the path6
Path through the forest7
Family8
Stražar9
View10
Towards the top of the ridge11
Exit onto the ridge12
Towards the summit13
View back14
Hotel15
A little more16
Summit17
No comment18
View back19
View back20
Play of nature21
Along the road22
Beginning of the park23
On the edge24
Path25
Downwards26
Bicycle path27
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nevi26. 04. 2011 11:52:21
Are the comments next to the pictures a bit shifted?
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2061alessio27. 04. 2011 16:27:20
I did this "hunter's path" 3 times in recent years always in the heat (July or August, on 15 August they have a party-celebrate St. Mary- mass, choir and then party on the meadow near the hut) from the barrier to the hut and recommend to everyone (but who would think that between the rocks-if you look from Arnoldstein- there runs a safe route to the top; rs756 nice pictures and congrats on the circular tour); this year I will lead a tour of the CAI-ASCA-FJK section end of September and we will do a traverse: barrier-summit-Bad Bleiberg and then ... last stage as in picture "rs756" no.18.
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rs75628. 04. 2011 13:22:46
alessio! I'm searching and searching for a more detailed map of marked paths or hunter's paths and accesses to them for the entire Dobratsch massif. Circular variants or up-down. I don't know where else to look and search. If you can help, thanks a lot. Possible that GPS tracks exist.
Štef
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atoamac28. 04. 2011 16:34:01
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samoa28. 04. 2011 17:22:45
In the guide from Sidarta publishing house "The most beautiful ski touring descents of Austrian Carinthia" there is also a description of Dobratsch, especially the great addition is the travel map which has technical descriptions of the tours.
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Tadej3. 08. 2011 15:50:26
Today I ascended to Dobratsch from the place Rute / Hermsberg. The path is nicely maintained and passable without issues.
A few more pictures.
Lp, Tadej
A glimpse1
View of Ziljske Alpe.2
Ganges3
View of the western Julian Alps, in the middle the eastern part of the Carnic Alps, below Ziljska Valley, right Ganges.4
Crossing the gully5
View towards the summit6
View7
Slovenian church8
Snapshot9
Cross on the summit10
Ludwig Walter-Haus hut11
Interior of the German church12
Dobrač13
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VanSims11. 09. 2011 11:45:29
Yesterday I tackled Dobratsch via the technically and physically a bit harder ALOISIASTEIG.

I parked in the forest at Almwirtschaft Schüt (access from Čajna(Nötsch) via Čač(Saak), at the fire station right where the mountain sign also points). Access to Almwirtschaft by car is officially prohibited. zavijanje z očmi

From Almwirtschaft I followed the sign for Alpengarten. It is very misleading as it is marked only with a red dot (medium demanding physically) next to it no warning like "Nur für Geübte!" or similar.

First along gravel then the path branches into the forest. Initially poorly marked, from the rock with ALOISIASTEIG inscription better, at first some knafelc markings (yellow middle), from the memorial plaque (there already first concrete view of the Julian Alps - they get nicer with ascent) then red dots. Not far ahead from that plaque the technically demanding part starts, but not too long. Easier climbing (at start a bit exposed) lasts about 10-15 min then the rock starts to flatten into just very steep path. Such path then brings me to a scree. There need to climb a bit along it (much less demanding than first climb and not exposed) then - markings ran out zmeden What now?

Above on the right I see some wire. I reach it, but to the right where it leads no dot, to the left it's collapsed. But from it I accidentally see marking on the other side of the scree. So the scree destroyed part of the path. I find the most stable (almost solid rock) crossing over it by descending a bit back and traversing. Scree not very wide. Back on markings. From here on they are again a bit sparse but can be found.

Continuing I meet some unnecessary wires (where were they before?!?) then traverse two more screes (first trivial with already made path, second I bypass on top and despite fear immediately find markings ahead). Then a herd of chamois crosses my path and I'm at Aloisiahütte. Actually it's a bivouac.

From it I continue. Until here path was very narrow, now it widens a bit and finally brings me to the wire fence and summit plateau. Cliffs end here, markings too! Where now? Intuitively follow faint track, ascend and descend a bit and see crowds in the distance. Of course at the main path from parking at end of road to summit. I join it too. Nicely greet people in Slovenian and get some Slovenian greetings back. mežikanje

After summit walk and viewing both chapels, descend to Čajna and with bike I left nearby ride to the car, in Čajna on the way back treat myself to a beer! velik nasmeh

ALOISIASTEIG:
DEMANDING MARKED PATH with two sections of easy climbing.

On the mentioned part where scree took the path continue left (marking on rock visible from other side if look well). Carefully cross scree on almost non-crumbly passage a bit below last visible marking! (condition: September, 2011).

HELMET MANDATORY (several times heard rocks loosening)!
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