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lilyd21. 09. 2019 20:48:54
We've watched Dobratsch many times but the ascent always slipped...this time we made it, 19 hikers, 15 first time. Weather ideal, no cloud, easy ascent up hunting trail. Views super, one lady said we'll see half Europe again...and yes, almost. Last week from Poldaš Peak towards Dobratsch, today view to our Julian Alps incl Triglav and to Karawanks from Peč-tripoint to Kepa and further to Kamnik-Savinja Alps from Raduha, Olševa, Peč...And to Italy to Montasio with neighbors and highest Austrian peak.. At the top transmitter, both churches, hut, coffee. This time beautiful autumn day, wonderful in summer flowers or winter idyll too, we'll come back...
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skala12321. 09. 2019 21:29:03
lilyd, nice, we met at Dovje.
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lilyd22. 09. 2019 19:49:33
Yes, really nice that we met - like old acquaintances....
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Tolminc18. 10. 2019 16:25:30
Yesterday's Dobratsch, windy and foggy. Quite a few visitors, footpath without special features.

https://sine771.blogspot.com/2019/10/dobrac-2176-m.html
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Tolminc12. 01. 2020 13:26:03
Yesterday's sports day on Dobratsch. People tons, gorgeous weather, road trampled, careful on ridge.

https://sine771.blogspot.com/2020/01/zimski-dobrac-2166-m.html?m=1
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silvo195212. 01. 2020 22:05:28
In the lack of snow for car-to-car skiing, we peeked to the Austrian side and drove to the Alpine road to parking no. 8 on Dobratsch slope.
Group of three hikers and three skiers went on promenade and climbed up the snowy ratracked mountain road to the 2166 m high summit. To the very top with crampons and icepicks. Skied on frozen snow on slopes and partly on road. More at: https://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/151370/
2020.01.10.05 on skis1
2020.01.10.09 Austrian peaks2
2020.01.10.14 we go on3
2020.01.10.21 nature on Dobrač4
2020.01.10.22 on a walk5
2020.01.10.25 hiker and female skier6
2020.01.10.34 view of the tower7
2020.01.10.44 Jalovec and Mangart8
2020.01.10.45 shade9
2020.01.10.46 view of the summit10
2020.01.10.47 beautiful11
2020.01.10.55 at the summit of Dobrač12
2020.01.10.65 for easier orientation13
2020.01.10.71 Julijci14
2020.01.10.77 Dobrač15
2020.01.10.85 Veliki Grintavec and Rabeljske špice16
2020.01.10.86 behind Prestreljnik and Srednji Vršič17
2020.01.10.87 Kamniti lovec and Viš18
2020.01.10.93 mountain raven19
2020.01.10.104 female skier20
2020.01.10.113 view of Tromeja21
2020.01.10.115 skier and summit of Dobrač22
2020.01.10.134 on the slope23
2020.01..10.152 skiing24
2020.01.10.156 skier25
2020.01.10.158 skied over26
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silvo195221. 01. 2020 13:25:20
Sunday sunny and windy window on Dobratsch. Freshly ratracked newly snowed road full of walkers, sledders and ski tourers. Slopes with fresh snow skied out, but in places without base, watch for rocky mines. More at: https://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/151538/
2020.01.19.07 ratrak groomed road.1
2020.01.19.16 larch forest.2
2020.01.19.26 peaks and clouds.3
2020.01.19.31 Dobrača hills.4
2020.01.19.35 paragliders, snowboarder and skier.5
2020.01.19.137 foliage6
2020.01.19.44 fence, sun and glider7
2020.01.19.54 numbered poles8
2020.01.19.60 female skier and tower9
2020.01.19.61 Austrian mountains10
2020.01.19.67 in front of the hut11
2020.01.19.78 start of skiing12
2020.01.19.79 skier and chapel13
2020.01.19.94 view of Karavanke14
2020.01.19.100 by the bench15
2020.01.19.108 powder snow16
2020.01.19.110 horizon17
2020.01.19.114 high on the slope18
2020.01.19.127 skier19
2020.01.19.142 skiing20
2020.01.19.146 skier on the horizon21
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golica16. 02. 2020 19:35:56
What are the conditions - path to Dobratsch, has anyone walked there these days?
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bagi12. 03. 2020 11:33:22
We made a visit to the neighbors too before they close the borders on us zavijanje z očmi.

We headed to Dobratsch from *podna*, along the former ski slope route. A bit surprised by the bare ground just above the parking. Snow conditions improved quickly with every elevation gained. Plenty of snow in the upper part, especially in wind-packed spots. Very few visitors, only a bit more in the upper promenade section. Given the temps recommend early start hours.

The morning *kopenski* start was a bit of a surprise1
A cold wind was blowing, the sun was in no hurry2
The lower part of the route is well snow-covered, just right for snowshoes3
From roughly the middle of the former route, the path is tractor-groomed4
It was getting hotter and hotter5
Freshly groomed, we were the first6
Pure pleasure, also for snowshoers7
The right rule applies :)8
The steepest part is right below the promenade, surprisingly tractor-groomed this time9
White abundance10
play of shadows11
The landmark of Dobrač … 160 m high communication tower12
The Gipfelhaus hut only a few years old13
Družba and the Slovenian church just below the summit of Dobrač14
The cross is dedicated to the miners who mined ore in the mountain's depths15
Return from the top. We had already removed the snowshoes earlier due to the too narrow track.16
The Austrian church is also dedicated to the miners.17
Still a view in the direction of Beljak …18
… and we were already returning.19
Snapshot :)20
Excellent snow for steep descents :)21
Here the joy slowly comes to an end.22
The parking lot was unusually empty.23
Good idea :)24
GPS track snowshoeing the path25
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Bojan_A26. 09. 2020 18:54:16
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bagi27. 12. 2022 17:45:55
We postponed the visit to Dobratsch for two years due to weird times, but in these holiday days it finally came up. Due to mild winter and strong thaw we hoped for at least some snow below, up top as little wind and fog as possible. What we got exceeded all expectations nasmeh. Excellent snow base from parking to summit, just light breeze and great weather all the way. Views from top fantastic, especially interesting was the sea of fog on our side. Huge crowds, lots of Slovenes from all over. Lack of snow and holidays do their thing.

So once again ... former ski slope from Heiligengeist is currently in great shape, suitable for snowshoers and tourers. For walkers better the highest parking on Villacher Alpenstrasse. There in winter season pay parking at machines, no toll. Connecting road from that parking to Dobratsch Gipfelhaus hut is excellently groomed. For earlier hours recommend microspikes due to icy patches. Same for ridge from weather station to summit.

Coordinates parking (Heiligengeist): 46°36'58.8"N 13°44'51.2"E
Large free parking lot on the edge of the village is completely icy in the morning1
Beautiful morning is the prelude to an even more beautiful day2
The gentle path variant is crossed by a forest road which does not hinder the ascent3
Just below the upper road the sun visits us for the first time4
To it we hurry straight up and the steepness quickly shows its teeth :)5
Road to the Dobratsch Gipfelhaus hut ...6
View towards Karavanks and Julians7
Some mist does not bother, even the whole looks good :)8
Hut supply, motor sleds are prohibited for others9
Dobrač with two churches, huge transmitter and mountain hut10
View back. The ground is excellent for walkers, snowshoers and tour skiers11
The central part of the panorama is taken by 160 m high telecommunications tower12
Few years old Gipfelhaus hut. The old one did not reach environmental standards13
Ridge to the top is nicely trodden this year, but quite slippery14
Slovenian church from 1690 high above Zilje valley15
Cross on the top dedicated to mining in these areas16
View over Zilje valley17
Connecting ridge. Small crampons recommended, some go even without18
At the weather station excellent spot for snack. Benches arranged too19
German chapel Marija na kamnu from 1692. Built by miners from Plajberk.20
We descend the same path. It is the most comfortable and wide enough for all.21
More and more people. If you drive to the highest parking lot, you don't need to be early.22
Last view of the Julijce before descending to the valley.23
Descent is shaded, no frost though. Thaw does its thing and no wind either.24
Quite a few hikers overtake us left and right. This one is even color-coordinated :)25
Enough space for everyone, no bad moods anywhere ...26
Already in the lower part. Descended a bit further right than the morning ascent.27
In the morning there were a total of ten cars, now all levels are full.28
GPS track of the overcrowded path. Recorded 15 km and 1300 elevation gain.29
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silvo195216. 01. 2023 07:49:22
This time the forecasters were right and the long-awaited snow fell. How it was on Saturday, see and read at: https://www.gore-ljudje.si/Kategorije/Novosti/dobra%c4%8d-ii
2023.01.14.03 everything is in the backpacks1
2023.01.14.12 ski touring2
2023.01.14.28 windblown summit and Julians3
2023.01.14.33 cautious descent4
2023.01.14.41 the sun is shining5
2023.01.14.47 winter on Dobrač6
2023.01.14.62 trio, moon and tower7
2023.01.14.90 fences, sun and mountains8
2023.01.14.101 foliage9
2023.01.14.112 skiers and the summit10
2023.01.14.133 view of the Gail Valley11
2023.01.14.136 at the summit12
2023.01.14.143 departure from the summit13
2023.01.14.161 jackdaws in the air and on the snow14
2023.01.14.191 skiers on Dobrač15
2023.01.14.212 Mangart16
2023.01.14.217 skiing on the road17
2023.01.14.222 ascent18
2023.01.14.227 view from the shelter19
2023.01.14.244 skiers and sun20
2023.01.14.247 skiers on good snow21
2023.01.14.257 skiing22
2023.01.14.270 enjoyment23
2023.01.14.277 skier and skis24
2023.01.14.279 almost at the end of the tour25
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britof21. 03. 2023 17:59:48
19.03.23. Kuhriegel, which has taken the name Dobrač or Dobratsch in German. Cross on top, just a few meters below it a Slovenian church. Dobrač has two almost equally high peaks, only about 30m apart. On the eastern of these two peaks is Europe's highest church.
Just a few dozen meters below both peaks is the mountain hut (Ludwig-Walter-Hütte) near which stands a 160m TV tower visible from afar. Didn't go the marked path because too deep snow, but the road which was compacted, smoothed and frozen in the morning, so crampons came in handy. Lots of hikers especially ski tourers. Weather acceptable for walking, morning clouds which were breaking up and sun warmed us on descent. Villach mountain road supposed to be paid, but at entrance, barrier and hut wrapped in transparent foil (protected from weather) this time no attendant. Nice easy tour with wonderful views.
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britof21. 03. 2023 19:09:06
Dobrač Dobratsch is a massive mountain range west of Villach. Its highest peak is 2166m Kuhriegel, which is known as Dobrač. That's how it's described, I didn't make it up. Regards!
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tulipan22. 03. 2023 07:26:26
The highest-altitude church in Europe is on Rocciamelone 3538 mvelik nasmeh Chiesa vetta Rocciamelonenasmeh
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lingo22. 03. 2023 07:45:21
@tulipan, not every chapel is a church, even if they occasionally hold a mass there
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britof22. 03. 2023 09:37:17
Then this misleading entry on Hribi.net (mountain description) needs to be corrected.
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britof23. 03. 2023 13:06:00
Well, good that we sorted it out, safe steps! LP!
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