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| spetovar1. 02. 2010 09:36:38 |
I look for the backpack to be adjustable as much as possible. OK, maybe I'm picky, but sometimes it comes in handy. It can be a really good backpack, but if it doesn't sit right on hips and shoulders, it can seem the problem is in the backpack.
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| vespuci6. 02. 2010 14:19:34 |
I personally swear by Deuter-Groden, which has a special mesh backrest that only touches the back.
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| viharnik6. 02. 2010 15:43:58 |
As I noticed, in Koala in Bled they also sell some "cool" backpack for 600eur. The backrest is made from some kind of circular element that moves. Yeah, some companies really aren't bored if they find a market niche. Here they won't sell well, among the cream of society who are laymen in mountaineering, probably everything sells, of course as long as the high price and company reputation match . After seeing the backpack I'd say it's completely useless for high mountains. Any Deuter, Mammut, Millet, Love Alpine is more than sufficiently advanced for any mountain visitor.
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| JusAvgustin6. 02. 2010 16:16:33 |
hehe, peak attack 40 from Lowe Alpine is the best!
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| Santi6. 02. 2010 16:47:25 |
Deuter Guide 45+ is the best , and the one Bedanc had doesn't look bad either 
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| Botko6. 02. 2010 22:38:18 |
Berghaus 35+8 with mesh yeah also top, I tested it on Camino Santiago de Compostela. When you adjust the backpack properly, no more pain issues even if the backpack is a bit heavier.
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| spetovar9. 02. 2010 10:23:26 |
No, 600 € for a backpack is really crazy Such a backpack must carry you up the hill, not you carrying it 
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| maiden10. 02. 2010 11:22:15 |
Does anyone happen to know if such a backpack, say http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?&cID=135&scID=53&pID=999 is also good for men? Because it has SL system (SL backrests are specially adapted for women's bodies). On the Kibuba site it says they fit women best, but still asking if there's any male user of backpack with SL backrest?
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| spetovar10. 02. 2010 11:47:31 |
The problem with SL backpacks for men is that the shoulder straps are closer together than usual. Height is not a problem, as the straps can be adjusted upwards too (not sure about this specific one). Depends on your build too. If you're more stocky in the upper body, it probably won't fit you. To know for sure, best to try it on site.
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| maiden10. 02. 2010 12:25:01 |
The fact is that it really hurts my shoulders I'll have to go check it out, yeah....
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| Mate0710. 02. 2010 12:31:04 |
I bought one for 12 euros at the sales. It's spacious enough I think, about 15 l, has clips for chest and waist.
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| maiden10. 02. 2010 12:49:16 |
I'm using approx. 50 L for approx. 130 EUR
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| spetovar10. 02. 2010 13:35:32 |
Then I recommend something like this to you: http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?mID=15&cID=135&scID=53&pID=61 Backpack very well adjustable, fits well, and you can fit a lot inside. It's durable (tested) and after approx. 8-10 hours uphill still wearable (no pain in shoulders or hips). The only thing that might be a minus is the weight. Not exactly among the lightest, nor the heaviest  Something like that or similar. Kibuba has a nice overview of how and what, then you can check DEUTER.COM. Best regards, S.
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| Lenko18. 03. 2011 13:49:48 |
The backpack is made of fairly thin material, so durability (longevity) is quite questionable. As far as I remember from the store, this backpack doesn't have much of a frame in the backrest, so it's a question of how it performs under heavier loads. Still, if you decide for the mentioned model, it's 13 EUR cheaper on mimovrste 
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| oakley_sf18. 03. 2011 15:28:46 |
thanks for the advice, I've decided for another one.
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| Sano27. 06. 2011 23:48:40 |
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| sodnick28. 06. 2011 07:13:03 |
Deuter is supposedly great. At least regarding the back system. There was quite some debate on this topic. The Futura model is for hiking or trekking, as it has a mesh back. I tried it and had a weird feeling, since you don't feel the backpack on your back at all. It has a very breathable back, however the center of gravity is away from the back and that's worse for difficult terrain. They recommended the (K2) Guide model also from Deuter and I'm very satisfied. It was said that it's an incomparably better backpack than Futura. It has an alpine back and good feel on the back. But it's a more technical backpack. There are, I think, two sizes: http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?&cID=135&scID=53&pID=1994 and http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?&cID=135&scID=53&pID=1993 Probably most important is what you'll use it for and in what terrain. You need to try it full in the store and see how it fits on the back. Otherwise, Mammut backpacks are supposedly also very good, just a bit more expensive. LP
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| Sano28. 06. 2011 10:59:46 |
Mostly I'd use it for high mountains and longer tours, max two days. I'd hike on easier as well as more demanding paths; otherwise, I don't know how much that back system away from the back would bother me. Thanks for the detailed answer, any experiences and info are welcome.
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| geppo28. 06. 2011 12:08:30 |
I like all three. Usually after some tours I can rate the backpack I carry myself. Currently I have three 30l, 45l and 65l. Most used is 30l and I'd maybe like one smaller. 45l mainly in winter and really on tours when you need a lot with you. 65l once a year (Pohorje crossing 2 days). And even there half unnecessary stuff. But that's more fun hike in company and that's why fuller. But I think you'll soon come to the idea of two too..
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