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| merkur31. 01. 2015 21:13:26 |
You on the rock - Ravni dol - ... .
Ločanka, get yourself the Trenta 1:25000 map. From the lower road barrier upwards the touring ski route is accurately drawn (mostly coincides with the path), leading via Ravni dol to Plaski Vršac. In summer the path leads us further along the ridge ... In winter there, if at all, be especially careful!
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| ločanka1. 02. 2015 17:55:49 |
This sounds very interesting to me. Really, right from the barrier the drawn blue-dashed line and that's it!
I'm happy!
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| IgorZlodej1. 02. 2015 18:01:43 |
A little on the road, a little on the path that isn't there, then a little snowing, fog and lots of powder, that's Clean Peak too, for dessert still under V. Tičarica.
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| IgorZlodej13. 10. 2015 09:51:52 |
There was a notice that a new logbook needs to be placed up there.
And I took some photos of current conditions  .
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| ločanka1. 11. 2015 11:50:45 |
Velesa, it's true! Some people aren't even aware that with their behavior they disturb the mountain paradise and peace, that they disturb other hikers too, it's a Spanish village for them. They actually desecrate a peak like Clean Peak. Those kind make you happiest with their departure. They simply aren't worthy of Clean Peak because they haven't grown up to it!
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| margu501. 11. 2015 12:28:50 |
Velesa, ločanka, what are you two claiming as your own, something that's not just yours? From what's written it's clear why you two are alone and hike in silence: happy people disturb you, because our "yelling" didn't exceed normal decibels of larger groups.
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| Kozorog1. 11. 2015 13:30:16 |
Wrong, @margu50. It's not that @velesa and @ločanka are claiming something that's not just theirs. "Screamers" in the hills are taking - you're taking the right to "ruin" and "desecrate" something that exists up there – mountain peace, nature's tranquility…. And that's up there for everyone, for people and animals, especially the latter… I fully believe @velesa what she wrote, because I've experienced similar in the mountains many times myself, and yes… even on Clean Peak already. On the contrary, I've often found myself in some "crowd" on more crowded peaks, but I was obviously lucky that it was a "crowd" of "real" mountain lovers. If I hadn't seen them around me, I really couldn't believe they were there… even though they were in pairs and groups…
You know, shouting and cackling and yelling in the hills has nothing to do with joy. Truly joyful people don't shout, but are rather quiet to hear how their heart plays and soul sings with joy.
But it has a lot to do with culture. Or when you go to some bar or inn, do you shout so all guests have to listen only to you?
And one more thing you're wrong about. I personally know @velesa, and follow @ločanka via this portal. And I tell you, they also hike in company, you won't believe it, even with a mountaineering club! So they're far from loners and don't hike only alone in the hills... But obviously they have luck that their fellow hikers are the right lovers of mountain beauties and mountain peace with whom it's a joy to hike and a joy to meet!
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| korl1. 11. 2015 15:12:35 |
@kozorog, this you've written deserves an award!
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| Strmina1. 11. 2015 19:11:54 |
I think I'm noticing some intolerance towards other people who hike in the hills. Yes, unfortunately (or fortunately) some like to hike in company and especially in merry company. Given that the presence of people in nature bothers some of you (I'm sure the mentioned hiking groups weren't rowdy this time), you'll have to go somewhere to Alaska, the Sahara or the Amazon, there's still quite a bit of peace there, no one anywhere and you'll easily enjoy silence, solitude and seek yourselves. Some of you have real trouble with many things around you bothering you. Have you ever thought that you yourselves aren't ideal either. And exactly as margu50 wrote, you're claiming something that's not yours, and at the same time you're a disturbance in nature yourselves. If you're more tolerant towards others and deal more with yourselves, you'll see that life is much nicer and people around you aren't just screamers...
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| velesa1. 11. 2015 19:55:08 |
Dear Strmina,
nowhere is intolerance towards other people mentioned, nor that the presence of people in nature bothers me (us), nor that we are ideal.
We don't claim something that's not ours, but respect what's there. And everyone who enters nature, especially pristine, is a disturbance in it. And it's up to the individual to control themselves so that the disturbance is as little noticeable as possible, not to amplify their own disturbance.
@margu50 - unfortunately, yesterday you could be heard from Clean Peak to Tičarca and vice versa. There were also people on Clean Peak who were talking, but I'm sure they couldn't be heard on Tičarca. And much respect to nature and other people I wish 
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| mirank1. 11. 2015 20:55:12 |
The event from Clean Peak a couple of years ago is strongly etched in my memory. In the patches of melting snow on the access path there were no noticeable traces of predecessors and in peace on the summit we admired the surroundings. A couple of minutes later a herd of 5-6 chamois comes rushing down the north slope. True, there was a bit of pull from Špičje, so probably that's why they didn't catch our scent. A couple of antics on that clearing a few meters below the summit and they were gone. You don't get that close to these shy animals easily, except under Adamello, but those there are literate , since every 100m there's a sign warning about hunting ban. I just want to say that you won't see a chamois at 10m often, but some certainly never; what that means to someone is another story.
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| tone11. 11. 2015 21:30:22 |
I'm reading this thread here and on fb. and I'm horrified by some comments.Fb. Hikers feel threatened because someone just expressed their opinion and you immediately attacked and started criticizing him.Is it cultural to send someone to Alaska and Sahara because he just expressed an opinion, condemn him for claiming something?
Maybe you should reflect on yourselves and admit that you're not ideal and that everyone maybe has a bad day once in a while.
I wish you much patience in the mountains and in the valley and happy steps wherever you are.
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| SunBurned1. 11. 2015 22:04:08 |
I think some hikers should be more aware or inquire about what locations they're heading to. There's a difference between Clean Peak and e.g. Prehodavci, Kompotelo and Krvavec, Zelenjak and e.g. Vrtača...if we stay in relative vicinity...
Just like we are aware how we go to the theater or Cankarjev dom on one side or to football or rock concert on the other.
Just like it's "say" acceptable to have various accordionists and similar on Triglav, I hope hikes a la "100 trumpets on Jalovec" remain and will long remain taboo.
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| ljubitelj gora2. 11. 2015 22:26:16 |
Leave the joy to the hikers and turn back in time in the other direction.
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| velesa2. 11. 2016 17:24:21 |
There's also lots of autumn gold on Čisti vrh. With my relative we admired it yesterday. And the views were fantastic too. We met only a caterpillar and some ants
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| ločanka2. 11. 2016 17:39:08 |
velesa, better a caterpillar and ants than a bear
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| velesa2. 11. 2016 17:47:38 |
Hihi, I agree. And better than some famous hikers
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