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| piotr28. 04. 2021 09:39:43 |
Jasho Jenulla for president and we're set.
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| pantani128. 04. 2021 09:40:34 |
Well this is already very similar to the humorous series Only Fools and Horses  , and happy 1st of May holidays to you all.
Regards
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| djimuzl28. 04. 2021 10:06:14 |
This government under the guise of the Covid epidemic does whatever it wants and for now there's no one who can stop it, its president is very well aware of that.. Only the constitutional court brakes it here and there, and even that gets sharp words from the rulers in such cases.
That against everyone who dares to even think aloud about its work, let alone express some criticism, in the next moment – from various moldy cellars, Hungarian media, quasi-intellectual dr.dr. sphere, as from the highest instance, the prime minister's twitter profile and various humble subordinates – pours a real offensive of spewing fire, shit and nonsense and low gossiping and know-it-all – if I omit the government's "legal" decrees on the prohibition of expressing protests in general... is the best insight into the way the ruling party operates.
Of course, this kind of hostile "PR" serves as a smoke screen, which in the aforementioned epidemic conditions enables easier operation of the deep SDS state.
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| zokipoki28. 04. 2021 10:06:25 |
Dear Aljoman! I really wasn't at the protests, I was at home on the couch. I followed the protest broadcast on my phone. Beginning, a bit in between and end. I saw Jani later and that refutes my claim about the music, but during the time I watched the broadcast they played foreign music, which I have nothing against, but for me it's proof of the disorganization of the gathering, well, that belongs at parties, not at anti-fascist rallies where you have to be principled! That's how I see it.
In the air there really was a Chinese flag waving, which is absurd, as are the shirts with Tito's image (R.I.P.). Can you explain to me how you oppose totalitarianism with its symbols? Hold up a mirror? Maybe. I conclude that in Tito's times all of us who would resist during a pan al plan - demie would get smoke from the ass, they would lock us up and chase us off the streets. I think we would have experienced much harsher measures in the previous regime regarding covid. But no one knows for sure.
A bit more about fascism. Fascism, if curtailing human freedoms is called that, is ubiquitous and very widespread phenomenon, not limited only to government policy in the current lineup. Most slo companies are based on fascism, a good part of the economy is fascism and goes hand in hand with politics and it's stupid to think that changing the guard would eliminate it. It's a deeply rooted pattern in the blood. Workers are tools of fascist exploitation, who in fear for survival serve the master, the boss for his renown, which is practically worth nothing! Know that the end of fascism means the end of the state! At least for a while.
Now I'm going back to the couch.
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| VanSims28. 04. 2021 10:21:04 |
@Becar: Principally I'm neither on one side nor the other, but the left has been (with some interruptions) in power for 30 years, what kind of country we have as a result we could already see before corona. Rusted and shriveled they would continue to rule.
Power must change and there's nothing wrong if they're suddenly no longer in power. Otherwise they resigned themselves. If Janša were in power for a long time, he would also go crazy. Everyone does. Then no worry, I'd be the first to say: "Anyone but Janša!"
You know around 2008, 2009 I was also more for the left than for Janša. Then Pahor's government already opened my eyes, definitively Cerar's and Šarec's, who did nothing in their terms.
If you've read my posts well, you've seen that I've criticized Janša many times. Also his corona measures. Of course in the sense that they were too late and not strict enough. Some (say municipalities) were also silly.
You mention fascism. It's known in which neighboring country fascists are still heroes for a good part of the population. Well, here's a good example where I also don't agree with Janša, who almost crawls up their ass. Here full respect to the left, who dares to tell them the truth to their face (although when they were in power, around 2003 2004, when they started making noise about foibe they didn't dare say anything either but they should have nipped their falsification of history in the bud right then). Of course they have reasons for that - reducing the weight of their own post-war crimes or bad conscience.
As for that tweet, I don't know what's wrong with it. Unfortunately it can really happen.
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| Aljoman28. 04. 2021 10:48:48 |
@zokipoki, everyone is on their own bank, yesterday's crowd showed that too. Ok, let's leave those south of the Kolpa.
You write about t-shirts, flags and banners with images of Tito, Chinese flags, Che... As I already wrote to you, you weren't there, so don't generalize. I myself saw fewer than I have fingers on both hands (and I have all of them).
And every similarity with fascism is just "coincidental".
I wish you a nice day on the couch.
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| djimuzl28. 04. 2021 10:52:42 |
@VanSims 8 and a half years - from 31 - is no "interruption", besides in all Drnovšek's governments - 10 years - right-wing parties participated, including the currently ruling one...
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| zokipoki28. 04. 2021 10:58:43 |
Aljoman exactly that! Everyone is on their own bank and that's what I wanted to say! You hit the essence of my generalization and as long as there is no connection between these banks, that connection that would unite us all, it will stay as it is, sometimes better, sometimes worse. People need a universal guide, otherwise we can fool ourselves endlessly!
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| parenzo28. 04. 2021 11:08:55 |
Dear administrator,
I suggest this thread be deleted, as it has turned into an ordinary political cesspool and that politicking under any title be prohibited (and deleted), as is customary on websites unrelated to politics.
I think there is no place on this website for political "shootouts" under any title.
For that purpose, there are tons of sites on the web where agitators of all colors and other patients can let off steam.
Time for spring cleaning.
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| Trobec28. 04. 2021 12:37:31 |
Well... or if we rename the thread to "Covid and politics". Because unfortunately it's like that, both are very strongly connected, or covid today is already more political than a health issue.
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| tulipan28. 04. 2021 13:02:38 |
Parenzo, delete yourself from this forum, and it'll be fine.
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| VanSims28. 04. 2021 13:20:19 |
@djimuzl: if they were together 8.5 years uninterrupted, I wouldn't say ...
'Participated' you mean SLS and SKD... well, they held the pole up for them, they didn't have any decisive say, but mercifully got some chairs. Today they wonder how everything from media to institutions is in left hands. You helped them yourselves ...
As for the current ruling party, it has to be said it was the most principled: since 1994 (Depala vas) never again in a left government.
@Trobec: Unfortunately covid became a political issue not only here, also in USA e.g. With the fact that there it's the opposite: democrats for measures, right against which is another proof there's no ideological background but just exploiting the situation for political points.
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| Aljoman28. 04. 2021 13:21:46 |
That you can't write your opinion is exactly what the current government does. Censorship is a very tricky thing.
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| zokipoki28. 04. 2021 13:50:19 |
In Slovenia people mix politics everywhere, although it's everything but unifying. Therefore also a multi-layered view on covid and the current situation. Chaos.
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| Becar28. 04. 2021 15:17:48 |
Unfortunately, with us the first epidemiologist, virologist, health minister, procurer, all one and the same person. So politics and covid are inseparably linked. That's what I call covid mafia and I see that fortunately more and more people are actually aware of it. They stole so much that we all will have to tighten our belts. Ideas are already lining up, first it was the idea to take from pensioners, now social transfers are on the table, what's next, freezing promotions (again)? Everything will be done so that this mafia can continue stealing undisturbed at the expense of lowering the standard of living of all the rest of us. And this has to be stopped one way or another!
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| zavest28. 04. 2021 16:46:07 |
What is New Zealand doing wrong that the covid mafia doesn't rule there?  Not only do they have a quarantine-free travel bubble with Australia, they even organize concerts with 50,000 attendees, without masks and without tests...
Source
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| jax28. 04. 2021 17:32:38 |
They can have concerts even for 500,000 people, they are still locked up like sheep in a pen (ok, recently after a year they enlarged the pen a bit). If that's normal - no, thanks.
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| zokipoki28. 04. 2021 18:06:04 |
We are all locked up, regardless of covid, we just don't realize it, because over time we got used to the cages we built for ourselves.
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| julius28. 04. 2021 18:12:15 |
jax!
New Zealand for comparison is 13 times larger in area than SLO (NZ has 268,021 sq km, SLO 20,271 sq km)
When the prince of darkness in the Noric kingdom locked us in municipalities and regions, we were much tighter than NZ residents. Oh, they have a whole 5 million. And who was now in the smaller pen?
Yes you're right when you ask if that's normal?
In the Noric kingdom normality is dying in installments.
Yeah, yeah geography knowledge and a bit of math hasn't hurt anyone yet.
Have a nice one.
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| jax28. 04. 2021 18:25:13 |
Size doesn't matter. What matters is that they chose closing off from the world as a way to fight the epidemic. And I just don't buy that, because closing borders sooner or later also means closing the spirit. And the fact is that no country at all that chose closing as a way to fight the epidemic has lifted those closures. And at that point the key argument of the advocates of strict lockdowns falls - saying, let's close everything for a short time, then we'll live normally. Yeah, normally in their own pen. I don't accept it.
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