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| SamoK5. 05. 2021 09:10:52 |
Actually the administrator took care that such non-mountain topics are separated. Whoever is not interested doesn't read it. I think it's done very solidly.
I always wonder about people who push somewhere and then complain what sh..t it is and call for abolition!
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| Janez525. 05. 2021 09:20:59 |
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| VanSims5. 05. 2021 11:50:46 |
@Trobec: expressing opinions about some judgments regarding misdemeanors really cannot be provocation. Otherwise the option you obviously belong to considers every opinion they disagree with as an attack, provocation, ...
If against someone who is 'obvious criminal', the prosecutor can't find more than 'unknown place, unknown time', it can only mean two things:
- obviously not such an 'obvious criminal'
- the prosecutor is incompetent and should hand over the case to someone else.
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| jax5. 05. 2021 12:01:24 |
Wait, vansims. We've already strayed far from Covid now, but anyway: so you think that to prove to someone they received a bribe, you need to precisely define on which day in which office they received the suitcase? It seems perfectly possible to me that the matter can be proven firmly enough based on documents without knowing the exact place and time.
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| VanSims5. 05. 2021 13:34:16 |
Documents? Is some document made for bribes? What do you mean? And if there's a document, does it at least have a date? Then the time is known?
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| jax5. 05. 2021 13:46:10 |
Of course they exist. Emails, phone call logs, bank statements, maybe some airline or train tickets. Document evidence isn't just official documents.
And yes, the approximate time of the criminal act can be defined that way. As it was in the relevant judgment.
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| VanSims5. 05. 2021 13:53:40 |
No, the one accepting the bribe already takes care not to give himself away with such documents.
Why did it say then, at an unknown time, if at least approximately it was known?
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| Becar5. 05. 2021 14:09:30 |
When I hear that sung Matoz phrase at unknown time at unknown place, or say rejection of court mail, it literally makes me want to puke. And so no one thinks I'm biased, the same applies to those NLB corruption statements where no one remembered anything anymore (forgetfulness). Or the heavy heart patient Bavčar playing basketball. These tricks all belong in the same basket. VanSims, if you defend such nonsense, there's no help for you. Maybe you know that in Finland they imprisoned people because they determined unknown time and unknown place for the same case with the same people involved?
If this unknown time and place were a noteworthy argument, then no one would ever be imprisoned for corruption. I assume no one goes to a notary to certify with a suitcase.
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| djimuzl5. 05. 2021 17:48:34 |
The fact is that in this case it was an indictment/conviction in accordance with current political needs. Since the responsible ones were unable to present real evidence of the guilt of the accused, it came to the invention of "unknown place and time".
Theologian Ivan Štuhec predicted that with such an "ingenious" indictment and conviction of his namesake they would turn him into a kind of hero... Unfortunately, he was quite right, because guilt, even if so obvious, must be proven in a way consistent with the law.
The consequences of this failed performance by the prosecution and judiciary in this case are today all too obvious.
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| Becar5. 05. 2021 17:59:31 |
With us anyway almost no bigwig can be convicted. One half has connections at one court, the other half at another and then at this or that level the judgment falls. They've set it up nicely for themselves. For another third, cases miraculously expire due to court overload, or some prosecutor makes a slip. Then there are also surveillance methods whose evidence must be permanently destroyed etc. Those where due to the obviousness of the offense you can't even cheat, get luxury prisons or weekend prisons with various fishing trips.
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| Becar5. 05. 2021 18:18:58 |
The criminal plan is being realized exactly as predicted by experts from the ranks of "conspiracy theorists". Incredibly intensive efforts to vaccinate even children who are completely unthreatened. And with experimental vaccines.
LINK
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| VanSims5. 05. 2021 18:57:34 |
Actually @djimuzl said what no one dares (and I didn't wink either), because then you immediately insult him as 'janšist', 'fascist', ... One of yours has to tell you that you believe it.
Exactly that is happening all the time. Janša this, Janša that, third. Leftists you've created your own 'monster'. Now carry it ...
At work I told one from Levica: "Look, if you'd left Janša alone, he wouldn't be what he is today." He: "Uuuu, but you can't leave Janša alone." Well, then you have him now with your strongest parliamentary party, while in the first Drnovšek government (the only left coalition he participated in) he had a few parliamentary seats and one government, defense-ministerial.
Becar, I agree with your penultimate post too.
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| djimuzl5. 05. 2021 21:46:17 |
The rhetoric of the current prime minister and his loyal followers has obviously brought relief and justification to some - like, why shouldn't I also "freely" think out loud like that...
But we can express our own opinion - or, if you prefer, "our truth" - also without belittling and humiliating others/different ones.
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| Trobec5. 05. 2021 23:05:03 |
@VanSims, ouch, obviously for you the most important thing is which option who belongs to and you even proclaim it loudly. I don't know, maybe it's hard for you to grasp... but there are people who think for themselves, don't identify with any party and can condemn all the crap. Both quasi-left and quasi-right. Because there are no real lefts and rights among us anyway. Former worst communists today present themselves as the biggest fighters against communism.
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| VanSims6. 05. 2021 05:44:35 |
But who started with accusing which 'star' is my role model and so on. Look @djimuzl, belittling, humiliating up or down, still 'action and reaction' applies.
And generally already conclusions and hints from some on previous pages, what my option should be and so on. Just because I said opinions that weren't to someone's liking and because I too can think for myself. But such ones need to be labeled right away. Yeah, then you get it back.
If you've read my posts I've often criticized Janša and the right too. Currently he just seems a somewhat better alternative to the extremely vampirized and deranged left to me. Far from being his fan. More so because the left is like that.
As for our left. Their behavior during the crisis our country was in has revealed all their misery. As I said, they undermine themselves. That's how it is. Janša will exploit that again. After that again: that terrible Janša! And if someone already wants a comparison with Dolfe, the then government in Germany was largely to blame for him coming to power too. In that they are really similar.
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| pantani16. 05. 2021 07:35:21 |
primoža and what guarantee do you have that vaccines work?! In any case you have to wear a mask and keep distance..., all it is is exploiting and misleading with data. And you found an example in India, where cleanliness is the last thing that matters to them. People have died and will die from viruses, but what's happening now is simply curtailing basic human rights and the last thing I'll do is get a vaccine that doesn't guarantee protection!!!
And one more thing, I don't give a fuck about left and right, because they're all one big gang!!!
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| Becar6. 05. 2021 08:33:32 |
The Covid mafia doesn't care about people. Nor about humanity. Now they want to vaccinate everyone, even children, with these experimental untested vaccines due to their capitalist greed. But do we realize enough that if there's something wrong with vaccines in the long term, humanity could be decimated?
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| SamoK6. 05. 2021 08:40:04 |
>But do we realize enough if something's wrong with vaccines long-term, that humanity could be decimated?
Humanity for centuries on one side multiplies uncontrollably, on the other devastates the planet and treats its body like a pig with a bellows.
Your covid-mafia is just another expression for general human stupidity and greed. An expression used by little humans who can't reconcile with the fact that humanity isn't eternal.
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| magroman6. 05. 2021 10:30:36 |
@primoza and other advocates of mandatory vaccination, mask wearing,...etc
Explain to me plainly, why I should get vaccinated (not even mentioning our kids), if I don't want to.
Because more than obviously it'll probably be required already this year. But I got nothing against you getting vaccinated if you want.
best,
Roman
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