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Becar9. 06. 2021 19:47:58
This doctor who wonders why her med center is a target of vandals, is still scaring with Indian variant even though it's officially denied smile

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VanSims13. 06. 2021 08:33:37
Here I am, vaccinated! smile

On Thursday I learn that Johnson is coming to nearby Domžale for walk-in vaccination. Johnson seemed the safest to me of all, least clots and not even among men plus not entirely new mRNA tech and only one dose needed. I said if it were urgent (age, risk factors, work with customers, ...) I'd get this one. Well it wasn't urgent, but if it's so close and no need to book ...

Anyway just one day after vaccination, no reactions, upper arm hurts a bit, so much that for two, three days preventively I won't do heavier exercises of my usual morning workout. smile

Novavax which I'm still rooting for comes only end of year. So if needed again, then with that.
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Becar13. 06. 2021 08:41:10
Congratulations. You chose the vaccine for which they just found out that 60 million doses were contaminated with Astra Zeneca. In plain terms, they mixed a bit of one and the other because apparently everything is made in the same factory big grin

Source: zurnal24
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Majdag13. 06. 2021 08:57:06
Every smile counts.nasmeh
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VanSims13. 06. 2021 09:01:26
Yeah, found out on Friday, I also read it on the journal, but went anyway. We'll see if 540 will strengthen us (arrived 45 minutes early and was already 463rd eek) in Domzale and surroundings. nasmeh

Contaminated ones shouldn't be in the EU. Even where they are (say in the USA), they haven't started dying en masse yet. Maybe their protection will just decrease a bit, given that Astra only protects 60% after two doses

Johnson is only 67% (85% against severe course) effective. Better something than nothing. But Janša won't be able to monitor and program me like those with Pfizer and Moderna.cool mežikanje I only got adenovirus with spike protein. mežikanje

Formal dress for vaccination? I was even thinking whether to come in sweatpants, well then at least I put on bermudas. mežikanje
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Becar13. 06. 2021 09:54:20
It's true as they say, this vaccination is an IQ test.
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Becar13. 06. 2021 17:39:05
Conspiracy theory has become reality again. The head of vaccines at EMA says we should avoid AZ vaccine in all age groups. At this, let's think how experts convinced us that everything is fine with AZ and oh and ah, all who thought differently were conspiracy theorists. Also remember how Janez recently boasted about that Hungarian AZ donation. I'm wondering how all those feel who were (it's now completely clear) in the role of lab rats zavijanje z očmi

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VanSims13. 06. 2021 18:03:21
Anyone who could think with their own head could have come to this conclusion at the latest at the beginning of this year. First suspicious test results (less protection after second dose) then those clots, ... I wrote about this 30-50 pages back, so no one says I'm a general after the battle.

I, if I were a woman, would never get Astra. With Johnson though, as far as I know, the number of deaths is still in that standard range of one per million, as they teach pharmacy students.

Otherwise, most deaths are with Pfizer, but among the older population, where it's somehow expected.

But reasons for 'recall' of Astra are also less protection, irregular supply, and that we now have more other quality vaccines available.
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pantani113. 06. 2021 18:56:50
Don't mix apples and oranges... what you're injecting against Covid-19 is not a vaccine, but RNA "vaccine", which is a type of "experimental vaccines". In this case, it's a new type of vaccine where informational RNA (RNA - ribonucleic acid is a molecule that performs key functions in living organisms) is stored in a vector, e.g. lipid nanoparticles. The original vaccine is a suspension of live attenuated or dead microorganisms, their products or parts, used to cause active immunity against certain infectious diseases. Vaccines are developed for years, even decades, using scientific research/methods and measuring instruments to prove positive results, which does not apply to experimental vaccines like the current one for Covid-19.
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Becar13. 06. 2021 18:57:43
Haha you patriot opened society... dream until autumn then you can repeat the exercise. You can open society many more times, you'll be pricking like junkies.

Now that AZ remains, they'll mix it with other vaccines, somehow it has to be used up so commissions are fulfilled. How bendy the back of little Slovenians always surprises me again.
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VanSims13. 06. 2021 20:26:36
The back of Americans is even more bendy, and Brits (they were real lab rats with their Astra). Those two will be fully vaccinated soon. And say Serbs. Vučić, where is Serbian pride now! nasmeh

And other Europeans too, least of all some Bosnians, with those couple percent vaccinated. Here this is sturdy folk who don't let shit on their head. Because they can't either, due to incompetent politicians and lack of funds for purchase. But they get donations from whole Europe so others actually enable them to bend their backs! nasmeh

@pantani1: you're right, they insert only the genetic code of spike protein into the vector. Well, but on the other hand that means what @gely pasted a few days ago falls away, that spike protein is toxic and so on. Basically only the genetic code imitating it is inside.
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Becar13. 06. 2021 21:08:38
Americans didn't get AZ. Brits of course did, it's theirs. Smart ones renounced it long ago, including Denmark, Germany, Norway, Czechia, France etc...

We import it though, because our experts are the smartest in the world and will say to the bitter end that AZ is completely OK. Well, covid mafia does its thing.
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redbull13. 06. 2021 21:25:10
I'd say that among these vaccines AZ is actually the best, if I had to say. Well, it works great on one, but not necessarily on another. Pfizer is too mild. Oh is there anything new, haven't read for a long time, you've really written a lot
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Becar13. 06. 2021 21:31:23
Don't think other vaccines are any better. Unexpected heart muscle inflammations in younger men with Pfizer and Moderna.

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Zebdi14. 06. 2021 09:01:53
And in what percentage of vaccinated does this side effect occur? So we'll know if we're talking 2% or maybe 0.0002%? velik nasmeh.
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Becar14. 06. 2021 10:32:17
We won't find that out soon, because vaccines are in experimental phase on humans. The experiment has just really started. Everything that keeps coming out must be pretty bad for the info to reach ordinary mortals at all.

But I'll ask you, what percentage of deaths due to vaccines are hushed up? 99.0% or 99.99%?
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pantani114. 06. 2021 11:22:22
"End of epidemic but measures remain".... No more snow, but they still plow...Idiots.. jezen
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Zebdi14. 06. 2021 11:24:46
Aha, so say 1000 reported cases out of 130 million vaccinated. Really reason to panic, yeah.

Do you have any basis for the percentages of hushed-up deaths you cite? Because based on what you wrote, I'm surprised you still go to the doctor at all velik nasmeh

Otherwise, doctors diligently record (reported) adverse effects after vaccination and report them further. If you have any different info, bring it out mežikanje
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jax14. 06. 2021 11:40:05
I'm afraid this epidemic will have much worse consequences than accelerated vaccine development. Say - here a person is left speechless. Do they mean this seriously?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/covid-masks-continue-sage-scientist-b1863955.html
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Zebdi14. 06. 2021 11:56:53
@jax, there always have been and will be certain individuals advocating radical measures. It depends on broader societal consensus what will happen nasmeh
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