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dprapr4. 12. 2020 09:38:59
"Any government would be better than the current JJ's terror rule".
Maybe, maybe not. As far as I remember, the previous one planned to buy masks until the end of this year!? Oh yeah, masks are ineffective anyway.nasmeh
When we stop constantly blaming someone for our actions, that's when the situation will change and not before. Everyone should think for themselves where they make mistakes.
Probably we who go to the mountains are the least to blame for this situation. Except of course those who still visit massively visited hills in their area.
Of all these measures we follow or not, I find the one with movement restriction between municipalities the most controversial. Given that most services are not operating, in my opinion there would be nothing wrong if this restriction was lifted. Where should families with children go to nature in larger places where you run into crowds everywhere? If there were no such restriction, we could spread out more. Those of us living in the countryside don't feel it that much, but we miss the "high altitudes". At least us in the eastern part of Slovenia.mrk pogled
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VanSims4. 12. 2020 11:04:13
@dprapr: "Except of course those who still visit massively visited hills in their area."

"in their municipality", you meant? mežikanje
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herman84. 12. 2020 14:32:12
Given all the top expert writings on covid-19 on these pages, the administrator will suggest some of the best to the medical chamber for the next Nobel Prize in medicine.


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VanSims4. 12. 2020 15:00:00
It's not true but it is!!!

https://www.rtvslo.si/slovenija/v-zadnjem-tednu-najvec-izrecenih-opozoril-na-celjskem-konec-tedna-ponekod-poostren-nadzor/544529

"Both the health inspectorate and the police note that PEOPLE MOSTLY FOLLOW GOVERNMENT MEASURES."

Go take a little walk around and open your eyes.

"Police mostly detect violations regarding MOVEMENT RESTRICTIONS, health inspectorate regarding improper USE OF PROTECTIVE MASKS."

I assume the latter mostly outdoors and where there is no crowd. And yes, the virus spreads through movement and not contacts!

"The purpose of the police is to achieve compliance with virus prevention measures with the mildest measures,"

The mildest measure is a warning! Yeah, yeah, that's what they told me at the police too, that they mainly warn!

"In case of violations by minors, WE NOTIFY PARENTS,"

Yeah sure, mommy's boys and daddy's princesses are untouchable, and parents get a pat on the back for such upbringing!

"In this regard, we issued a total of 1002 warnings and issued 617 payment orders and expedited procedures. IN MOST CASES IT WAS VIOLATIONS OF DECREES ON CROSSING BORDERS, MOVEMENT RESTRICTIONS AND CROSSING MUNICIPALITIES,"

One doesn't know, but obviously we have a really incompetent police if they publicly expose their incompetence like this. Not that they don't want to but actually - incompetence!
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Dr.ejči4. 12. 2020 17:46:34
What... the hell is new today?!?
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piotr4. 12. 2020 18:03:58
Probably people really struggle to understand mask use during close encounters.
I just got back from a short tour of the city hills and among passersby at least 3/4 weren't wearing masks.jezen
Since the virus is already politicized, here's a look at these proposals:
-Newly elected US president advises 100 days of mask wearing.
-Self-proclaimed KUL coalition recommends relaxing measures, ventilating rooms, etc.cool
Can't be true, "fear rule" is falling, let the comedy continue...velik nasmeh
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andi24. 12. 2020 18:46:40
Čer,
meh, nothing too muchzavijanje z očmi Soon a new political invention awaits us for easier living at home - glass windows. Oh, and doors, those solid ones - that's Jelovicavelik nasmeh
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Dr.ejči4. 12. 2020 19:32:19
Really, Primož?... among suicide entrepreneurs?... or in general?... meaning cancer, stroke deaths, traffic, complicated diseases, etc.?... aren't there few enough of us?... destroying nature too little?... well, when we've finally started pitying each other, your statements are the most idiotic self-loving for me mežikanje... I think you're saying until 10 entrepreneurs kill themselves daily?!?!... no, you're not an idiot, you're a moron!!!... unfortunately I personally knew a female entrepreneur who actually hanged herself... and a guy who, after his business went to hell on top, his wife left him too!... it bothers you that you can't go climbing in Austria or Osp... you're really making a fool of yourself... and you'd lock everything for 14 days and then live in a fairy tale???... do you also believe in Santa Claus, Grandfather Frost, forest fairies, gnomes??... yes, I believe some have it easy because they're home and still receive colngo... and, by the way, when you say it's easy for entrepreneurs who do nothing and receive 80% salary... I know quite a few people who do nothing and receive 100% colngo... no need to guess where they're employed!... and to the guy who said he's retired and luckily doesn't worry about income, you commented he has a full ass... oh, and also!... you keep repeating that 1/3 doesn't respect measures... now I don't know if I'm blind when I move around??... actually every third should be without a mask in the store, gas station, post office,... if it's stated that a certain percentage disagrees with measures, it doesn't mean they don't follow them... I'm among them, by the way... they're totally stupid to me, but I still wear a mask and respect others... and since we're on masks... for fun I put on the most ordinary "surgical" one while sanding leveling compound... that's the finest, wet dust that goes where you can't even imagine!!... I assume it's bigger than the virus???... but if my mouth was without dust??... yeah, in a fairy tale!... man, you're a jerk!!!!... I hope your ego buries you once.... I met you only once, when you were descending Storžič in snow with Žan... Žan was a bit bigger than the hiking ice axe he proudly held in his hands... behind him you walked proudly "dad", so proud and pumped with ego that your double chin was obviously squeezed upwards... so much that at a normal "hello" (yes, I see myself as a normal person raised on "please, thank you, good day, etc..." and I'm proud of that!) you couldn't respond??... Žan too (but him as a little kid I somehow forgive, although zavijanje z očmi)... I despise such people and as I wrote, pity I didn't spit in your face!
p.s. my valve loosened a bit mežikanje
I have an idea... since we're all obviously "amateurs" here regarding this virus expertise... let everyone say or write what their education is, what job they do and where employed, so we see who's "competent" for statements??... and who cares if they're home and get colngo...
Like this, I'm self-employed... trained, mind you, not learned in one week like someone (I'd like to see how you quality learn a defined profession in one week... or any craft work) builder, with 25 years practice... painter by education, unfortunately "doctor" in my profession and I do it with a lot of heart... no, I didn't apply for help because I'm solidary with my country (yes, we craftsmen form it too not just business owners!!! and, by the way, only contributions don't fill the budget, but taxes on profit and VAT, which there isn't because money doesn't circulate!!!, bumblebee!!... even more, we get screwed first because on 15th or 20th no one cares if you work or not, you have to pay contributions, otherwise they rip you off...) and I won't harm its budget... I didn't use the voucher and won't... let more stay for those who really lack... yes, happy I have work, modest and can gather for contributions, costs, food... for luxury I treat myself to hiking gear, some good food and whiskey, rum... beer with friends is obvious velik nasmeh... van is 17 years old and still won't die velik nasmeh... oh, this year I dared 15-day vacation in Croatia... for return I got another 14 days "vacation"... no need to mention clients' displeasure...
Regarding this scene: I know quite a few people who were positive, some I was in contact with too... don't know if I was positive, if I had it?... some headache, maybe burning throat?... but nothing unusual for me... I've been working in such dust, filth and fumes for more than half my life.
So, finally this: I've always thought there are too many of us, we're parasites on Earth that we just drain for our own ass!!!..
So! 1. if the virus is unnatural origin, i.e. artificially created, we can't blame it no matter what!
2. if natural virus, all honor to nature for giving us a slap on the pussy as we behave towards it!

sorry to admins if I went a bit out of "frames"... I'm good at that velik nasmeh

to all others, nice to meet you!
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redbull4. 12. 2020 21:02:47
Well said Dr.ejči. They can really sink into the ground that with ever harsher measures the picture is worse. That's really crazy. What will they achieve with that, that with food delivery you can't deliver a six-pack of beer? They're directly mocking.
Just let the weather improve then to the mountains, nothing else left for usmežikanje
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samoa4. 12. 2020 21:03:43
Madonna Dr.ejči, your little valve really let go....
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journeyman4. 12. 2020 21:18:12
As Dejan says, just let the weather improve, then all to the mountains, plus mass middle finger and "no, thanks" to government psychos. The "epidemic" will end in a moment. mežikanje
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zavest4. 12. 2020 23:05:09
> Nothing stops the believers in chemtrails, flat earth and Bill Gates' chips.
Don't be modest and add to that eminent list also the selfie king.
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Mcgiver4. 12. 2020 23:08:16
Dr. ejči, you wrote a bit roughly but honestly. The situation is not rosy, except for those plugged into the budget. The one it's mostly intended for anyway won't understand because he doesn't want to or can't. He constantly hammers about that one third that's guilty of everything, but I don't see them anywhere. I'm attaching a link to an expert who I think can match Primož in ability. (no fear, there are Slovenian subtitles)
Unless of course it's fake newsvelik nasmeh

https://vimeo.com/482001636
 
 
Dr Roger Hodkinson is a doctor, pathology specialist including virology.
Studied at Cambridge University in the UK and former chairman
of the pathology section at the Medical Association, also associate professor at the Medical Faculty where he taught a lot.
Was chairman of the pathology exam board at the Royal College of Physicians in Ottawa.
Most importantly, currently president of a biotech company in North Carolina selling COVID-19 tests and one could say he knows something about all this.  
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VanSims5. 12. 2020 06:20:10
"no, I didn't apply for help because I'm solidary with my country"

Hmm, who thinks who is stupid?

@redbull: "can't deliver six-pack of beer"

Well, that I would protest too if ordering such food (I prefer to go to the store). Yes, it was said long ago that Slovenes will revolt sooner because of closed pubs than lack or crisis. Here! mežikanje
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andi25. 12. 2020 06:37:46
Mcgiver - thanks for sharing the video. Hard to say the guy is faking, all real experiences go that way. Only thing I (due to personal experience) won't agree with - not just bad flu. Disease can be very very serious, severe long-term lung consequences. Occasionally if really bad luck even deadly. But Dr.ejči wrote nicely - if we've fucked the planet... to that extent we deserve some things. We don't stop. First thing public pressures most is not opening borders for trips and family visits. No, clothes and shoes need to be piled on. And football matches, especially those of the richest clubs. Those must be kept at any cost. Because as world community after enormous debt then pretend that money needs to be returned to someone (to whom? me, Janez, grandma, bank, state??), probably nothing else but renewed poverty and suffering awaits us in near future. Well, new variant ala Covid21 of course. And downward spiral continues. Let's stand together, be tolerant and help each other as much as possible. That's the only thing left for us.
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lino5. 12. 2020 10:32:22

Primož, your visions are prophetically coming true. Good thing you share your predictions so lovingly with us and encourage us in these crisis times. Thanks! nasmeh
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milesdavis5. 12. 2020 10:38:02
Dr. Potočnik
At the ER today many are waiting again for admission, departments of course full. The numbers of positives are underestimated, the situation on the ground doesn't show improvement yet.
Quite a few (repeat) deteriorations and pulmonary embolisms after covid are coming, even young people. Don't listen to Potrč and Čordić, the matter is serious.
With such dishonest media reporting people will think measures really don't apply. And they'll follow them even less. Expect more infections.

Dr. Simoniti
In less than 24h on our Covid ward, one of four regular ones in the hospital, 5 people died. Five. And we're seeing more and more horrific consequences of the disease in otherwise young people who will remain disabled. Then I come off duty and again the evening figures. Angry and sad.
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dprapr5. 12. 2020 10:42:48
Sometimes they said you get to know a person when you're roped up with them. It holds true so much.
Similar now, although we don't have the option of roping up.
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andi25. 12. 2020 14:30:04
Above piotr mentioned the 100-day mask challenge. Since I've spent at least half of last year's and probably similar next year's schedule with a mask on my face, maybe I can offer a challenge for the new year too. Challenge: 100 days without the listed things.
Senile Joe - plastic surgery and talking to a minor
Crazy Donald - appearing in public
Janez - Twitter
Jelko - the Republic of Slovenia thinks for you
Matej - mom and eight-wheeler
Muka Lesec - comrades told me so
Kahrl - using the letter r and politics
Tanja - who knows, something is already important to her
Alenka - English
Zmago - faking national pride
Marjan - grandma, šporhet and to be or not to be prime minister
Zdravko - rustling tourist money
With best wishes, maybe quarantining these people in these areas will show good impact on the epidemic too. Or at least genuine care for the masses entrusted to their care. Us ordinary ones will help each other, there's enough empathy for at least ten years of epidemic.
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jax5. 12. 2020 18:15:06
primoza
Excellent. Dream team. The more such, the extension of measures is promised to us. Only believers in chemtrails, flat earth and Bill Gates chips nothing stops. Probably the most obvious sign of degeneration of Western civilization.

Here we have it. All who doubt giving up gains from a century-long fight for freedom and democracy are now conspiracy theorists and flat earth advocates. Well, I'll say how things stand. I've always considered myself an advocate of common sense. And clearly, chemtrails, flat earth and mass chipping are by no means in line with common sense. But:
- similarly, squatting in municipalities and crowding on Šmarnih gora, Sabotin and Pyramids is not in line with common sense,
- common sense also tells us that children will play on the first snow and that's the most normal, even though Kacin is shocked by it. It happened in wars too,
- common sense tells us that youth will party anyway, no matter how much we restrict it. Life finds a way and they partied on the fronts too. Claiming we can prevent it is like trying to make a river not flow to the sea,
- similarly common sense tells us that administratively stopping the economy will cause mass poverty, suffering and also deaths (economic collapse with the fall of the Soviet Union shortened life expectancy in Russia by 8 years. No virus, no matter how bad, will achieve that),
- likewise common sense tells us that denying schooling opportunities to children in the most sensitive youth period will have permanent consequences for their further personality and cognitive development,
- and ultimately, common sense tells us that every year in the respiratory season some die too. That this season is worse than previous (which it is, data shows) doesn't mean it won't pass. And no need to talk about sacrificing the elderly, because with the measures we're witnessing, it's about sacrificing those from the previous two points.
So much about conspiracy theories and common sense.
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