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Covid-19, Ukraine

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redbull19. 12. 2020 20:17:14
Primož, I would never block you. I liked looking at mountain visits, I can say quite a bit in the past. Now we like to laugh in the evenings at your stories.
Regarding the conditions in the mountains: not bad, on Christmas a bit of snow, then still OK with some wind
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VanSims19. 12. 2020 20:27:13
@dprapr: maybe if we think a bit: first in line for the vaccine will be nursing homes and staff there (besides healthcare workers). All of them will get vaccinated in a slightly higher percentage. If the average willing is around 50% (per surveys), among nursing home folks surely even higher percent (among young less). Who makes up a third of those in hospital because of covid? Who brings them the virus (since they're locked in nursing homes like prisons) the only ones? Just vaccinating those will noticeably ease hospitals. Even if we assume no sterility. Of course, after second dose (+3 weeks) and + two weeks for full immunity. So around Culture Day at latest the rush should ease (even if due to measures nothing decreases before)

That @gely gets info from so-called conspiracists isn't really controversial. Some conspiracy theories (clearly except obvious flat-earth, 5G causes covid etc extremes) might even hold. That's why it's THEORY, meaning hypothesis to be confirmed or refuted. If first, becomes truth, if second lie. Until then just theory.

What's wrong is if source of your knowledge is solely and only such theories which @gely implicitly admits by saying doesn't follow reports i.e. assume media cuz they're all lies anyway. Sure media dump a lot but need to separate grain from chaff. Exactly as someone said: like reading only one media e.g. Nova. Or 24UR - same kind though opposite direction, bit higher intellectual level but thus more sneaky lies.

So @gely doesn't know responses from other side to such theories. Doesn't know that obstetrician admitted his mistake on sterility, response to that Austrian MP is here:

https://siol.net/digisvet/novice/kokakola-in-test-za-covid-19-nevarna-igra-avstrijskega-poslanca-video-541150

Now who you believe is your thing but at least listen to both sides. mežikanje

Primož, this social cramp will ease as soon as 10-20% of most critical vaccinated. Then measures (except maybe disinfection, masks where lots of people, rapid tests as I mentioned purpose in previous post,...) almost not needed. Their point isn't to protect anyone, everyone must himself - vaccinate or watch out. If after that someone goes for measures meaning any restriction, I'm first to revolution!

And digitalization didn't bring lots of information but lots of web chatter from which info must be extracted.mežikanje And of course lots of web provocateurs. Since the guy posted again few posts back just say insulting "you can't be helped if convinced you know and can everything or better than others at both" shows complex of the one saying it, working opposite to content of such conviction.
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Mcgiver19. 12. 2020 22:39:11
Ojoj, I just worked a bit in the afternoon, missed so much. nasmeh
It would be dearer to me if you explained this "dragging" yourself and not via Primož's lawyer who knows everything. Obviously we interpret "voluntary" differently. Won't repeat cuz VanSims wrote it better than I would. Thanks.
Lino, you burn wellvelik nasmeh
primož's farts are problem, we'll see what'll mess us over holidays and it'll show around Jan 10........zavijanje z očmi
gely, pity the block, you don't know what you're missing.....mežikanje
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dprapr19. 12. 2020 22:51:25
nasmehExplanation from Primož came as ordered, given that my comments don't please you.
Hope VanSims's predictions really come true. At least first stage behind us. Watch what you'll do over holidays. Hope you'll be in mountains, which sadly I can't say for me. Ending Covid debate.
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Mcgiver19. 12. 2020 23:13:59
nasmehWell, that comment I liked.
Currently it's the only debate burdening us all. Good luck!
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turbo20. 12. 2020 08:42:40
Slowly it will get better, no doubt, but there will always be idiots whom Primorci nicely call: "Look at him. Are you nuts, you know!" nasmeh
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Majdag20. 12. 2020 10:17:16

Every smile counts..nasmeh
- Every smile counts..1
- Every smile counts2
- Every smile counts3
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gely20. 12. 2020 10:34:34
@VanSims ...just asking like that - so you mean only what our media publish is true?? That thing about our obstetrician doctor who apologized maybe didn't go through also because he would lose his job if he doesn't say the apology??
Are you really so convinced about the vaccine verification in such short time? Did swine flu exist? and how was it regarding the vaccine .....
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MitjaBelak20. 12. 2020 12:22:07
Yes, or maybe not related to covid, but anyway, probably not good for health.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pshOdRR1Vq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOhZ-kWVVCY

Maybe primoza will explain, since he just mentioned conspiracy theory.
No, I'm not messing around, because I always respect other opinions too, but I'm still curious about your stance, because your view on the virus and everything around it is diametrically opposite to some here.
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Mcgiver20. 12. 2020 12:56:41
Mitja good question for the expert, and I don't think the earth is flat......zavijanje z očmi I see it will be an interesting Sunday afternoon, after a nice walk in the forest without a mask......velik nasmeh
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SamoK20. 12. 2020 13:22:06
Horrifying, what nonsense.
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ana20. 12. 2020 14:00:37
primoza, anyway we don't read your posts, because we've blocked you long ago.
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s7nf20. 12. 2020 14:12:47
@MitjaBelak
Example of deepfake
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2313156/Video-South-Park-creators-spoof-Trump-election-loss-deepfake-video.html

Can you tell the difference between real Trump and faked? Quite hard. And it's just one algorithm, AI if you want, 5 minutes of work.

Those images that are in your video, hmm. Similar photoshops we learned 20 years ago in technical class in elementary school.

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s7nf20. 12. 2020 14:14:41
Example of artificial intelligence

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com

visit the site and keep pressing refresh. Not one face is real, all is computer generated.
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nenap20. 12. 2020 14:21:23


Also GRS ... are...

"the old ones regardless if in GRS or not are often more "stubborn", but it would be nice if GRS guys at least tuned their own ranks a bit, because there are many actively infected and such GRS members are a very bad example " ....

HOW COULD YOU WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ...

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SamoK20. 12. 2020 14:38:20
Now purely serious, MitjaBelak and company.
Man is an extremely capable and excellently adaptable being, unfortunately those properties served him excellently only up to some 15,000 years ago. When he (unconsciously of course) embarked on conquering the entire world, multiplied beyond insane limits and "subdued" nature, he simply fucked up.
Now we are here where we are. Epidemics, pandemics etc are inevitable, the experts have known this for at least 50 years. Environment more or less depleted, climate destabilized.
All this is fact.
Getting upset about one trifle like chemtrails is a bit off - even if there was something true to them.
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Dr.ejči20. 12. 2020 14:59:11
Yes, simply, Nenči..."gods have fallen on their heads"...and now waiting for brain transplant???...OK, let's not be offensive, because the "kids" are already shaking their pants so hard...what if Žan, because of this guy, gets fever again????...hello!!!...do we realize that for a while he won't be able to press the "gas"...that's unacceptable!...and also, by the way, encounter at about 40 cm...as far as I'm concerned, that's already my "personal" space and I decide who can enter it mežikanje
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Dr.ejči20. 12. 2020 15:18:04
"Stone upon stone, palace, grain by grain, flatbread"...."it's just one plastic ear swab"...a trifle, I'd say...said "8 billion" people!!!...

and just today, on the way to the local hill I picked up 2 masks (OK, Pirovo I still tolerate, but who the fuck needs an energy drink for a 500m??? eek), chocolate wrapper and tissue foil...and when someone convinced me there's nothing wrong with cutting down your forest, making a platform, setting tables, buffet, grill, music, etc...because of corona...are you stupid??!!..."it's his, he'll earn more anyway"...God Earth!
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redbull20. 12. 2020 15:33:45
God help if we can still

As soon as possible let that vaccine arrive and start "injecting", because some are seriously ill. If he had fever, I'm almost sure he's positive and it's quite careless to wander around. Why am I sure? Because now every crap shows you're positive
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Trobec20. 12. 2020 15:51:41
I thought there was a special covid 19 topic...zmeden
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