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| pantani111. 04. 2021 10:50:04 |
Primož, your constant insulting of those who think differently in the sense that only I am right all others are inferior, is just a coincidence with someone who came to power in 1933!!! Unlike you, I speak in my own name and only for myself. I don't incite and don't call others to actions. Once again my personal opinion is that I just won't get vaccinated and that's it, others do as you please!!!
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| Kozorog11. 04. 2021 10:51:09 |
@pantani1, I'm not an "expert", but I dare say that your post is "tendentious" and only half true and therefore misleading. My daughter, who is still a student, got vaccinated with Astra Zeneca because of doing numerous practices and exercises in hospitals, health centers and nursing homes. A few days after the first dose, before practice she still had to test, the (rapid) test was positive and when she said she was vaccinated, they told her that in such a case the rapid test is often positive. The explanation was that after vaccination the body starts producing antibodies, which the less reliable rapid test detects as infection. Subsequently the PCR test was of course negative and it wasn't any infection after vaccination. I'm almost sure it was the same in the case of the "gentleman" you're writing about.
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 13:06:27 |
Drago, we're both too slow for Dejan. If you add our speeds together, we don't reach half of Dejan's. Maybe we catch up if we add Primož's speed, but even that only when he goes up and down the same ferrata 20x. Everything I've ever posted here is true, everything has some evidence background. If I'm a troll for you, then keep your head in the sand and just obey. Yeah where do I dare go to the mountains in these pandemic times. You've scared me so much that I'm at home all the time now of course with a mask on. I assume you and andi2 had insight into autopsy reports where it said cause of death covid. Otherwise I can't imagine how you can be so sure.
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| Trobec11. 04. 2021 13:20:55 |
Majbert's rapid tests are nothing else but quick shitting. Reliability is somewhere around there. Anyway, according to guidelines, vaccinated should not be tested with HAGT (even with better quality tests). There is a high probability of false positive test, by the mechanism described above. But general testing with HAGT everywhere is professionally very questionable and there are strong debates here. True, it catches most "suspects", but on the other hand there are many false positives. That means we send a healthy person to quarantine and take away their personal freedom, because some unreliable test showed that they pose a danger to public health. Although in reality they don't.
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| dprapr11. 04. 2021 15:04:29 |
After vaccination I was for quick testing 3 more times, and there was no positive test.
Nowhere does it say that you can't get sick, even if vaccinated.
And not again now, why did I get vaccinated then. I already know why.
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| andi211. 04. 2021 15:13:49 |
Becar - correct (your last indirect question about me). I'm responding purely from some psychological curiosity, how you'll now define my claim, that you can continue believing in yours (all good and right, I support) and won't need to accept the fact that there's also a different opinion and potential truth (funny!). I expect a statement like: Andrej - your claim that you personally read an autopsy with this diagnosis is a)lie, b)I don't believe in such an autopsy report, the pathologist was wrong, c)you work on Covid/in the morgue/... d)ignoring my post and revving the engine of your only right idea further lp
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 15:41:48 |
a)
And do you know why I know you're lying? Because if you'd informed yourself a bit, you'd know that due to covid, autopsies weren't even performed here at all. Or put differently, covid wasn't confirmed with autopsies, except a little at the beginning for research purposes.
You were interested in the psychological aspect, but now you've unwittingly revealed your psychological profile and that of all similar to you, who live in one big lie and close your eyes. Yeah... without lies your arguments unfortunately don't hold up anymore.
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| dprapr11. 04. 2021 15:45:13 |
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| parenzo11. 04. 2021 15:51:27 |
That a (seemingly healthy) person falls ill after vaccination against flu, covid etc., is no science, but lies in the fact that they were already (a few days) infected, but hadn't had symptoms yet.
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| andi211. 04. 2021 16:03:23 |
Ouch, Becar, no wonder you fall into conspiracy theories so quickly. We can go tomorrow together to Forensic Medicine in Ljubljana, and we'll check together where autopsies on Covid patients are still done today and the diagnosis is officially confirmed. As you rightly say - after all, they can't define the virus as the cause of death. Yeah, unfortunately not most other diagnoses either. But in some strange way we still believe that a person dies from cardiac arrest. Well, as I say - when someone rises from the dead, you won't believe me that it's possible. Because it's not, right? So psychological category of blind faith and conviction in one's own claims. True, mine is enjoying life in the false illusion that Covid causes deaths. All good, the world will continue to exist for me as for you. lp
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 16:41:48 |
Well, what you're claiming is one big bullshit, because our experts publicly said they don't cut open lungs, because according to them it's too dangerous for further infections and at the same time there's not enough staff for that. You have the conspiracy theory inside you against those who think differently.
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| andi211. 04. 2021 17:09:44 |
Hehe, Becar. Each time with a more interesting response. Two aspects interest me especially. A colleague helped me compose the previous minimal psychological a-d. Interestingly, we both won the bet on the set response a (it's probably quite noticeable that it's the only one composed of one and a very firmly defined word - lie). Yeah, I know, not nice of us. Internal jokes anyway. And second - true, in my free time I'm a member of the Covid mafia and they pay me for every dissenter I manage to convince into my conspiracy theories. Give me another one, today lots of brain work, and it fits to chat a bit in between This thread is anyway just for the trash, as I mentioned a few pages back. lp
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 17:12:40 |
I managed to figure out the (un)truth of your statements without help from any colleague even before you two wasted effort with your colleague. I don't need help to detect when someone is bullshitting. The recipe is simple. Just be a bit worldly, follow things, have a pinch of memory what who said in the past, conclude based on rational facts and not fluff for sheep.
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| andi211. 04. 2021 17:14:55 |
 fair enough. Some of us are sheep and can't do it alone, so we need help even for bullshitting. Give another one
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 17:23:57 |
The Covid mafia is starting to get water up to their necks, so these days they've moved to the next phase of painting little sheep. Now they've started paying "known" personalities. So a few days ago a famous Slo. football coach already appeared, and today also some Slo. singer. Both are on the edge of death because of covid. Most interesting is that at least for these two I know they would sell their soul to the devil for money if needed.
Interesting also how these criminals operate in phases. Before no celebrities, now suddenly one after another. So I'm already waiting who of the so-called famous will barely survive covid tomorrow.
Yeah, the devil is, especially with musicians and unemployed coaches, somehow need to get money even in these times.
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 17:27:11 |
Andi2, sadly not every layman can be in the Covid mafia, but I believe you wish for that.
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| andi211. 04. 2021 17:29:14 |
Yeah right, switch to personal level even though we don't know each other. Nice give another one.
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| Becar11. 04. 2021 17:35:58 |
But you've already gone to personal level quite a while back, and you forget quickly how "ugly" you two were with your colleague. Better give one yourself, this time based on the truth.
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| VanSims11. 04. 2021 17:37:31 |
I don't want to be a member of the mafia
I've read biographies
Of leading mafia figures
Their families
Come from Sicily
I've seen photographs
Of the biggest mafia gangsters
All dangerous mugs
Carrying sawn-off shotguns
Delete me from the list
Here's your mafia booklet
I want to stay honest
Even if I'm waxed
I don't want to be a member of the mafia
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| SamoK11. 04. 2021 17:41:44 |
With Becar it's simpler than andi2 thinks. As established, he's deathly afraid of the needle, so needs some mental support and understanding not to feel so alone. No support at home either, as they don't oppose him for peace's sake—they're used to him always being right—otherwise he explodes with all fours. He's just like the other hysteric on this forum - primoza-ju - though on opposite covid ideology shores.
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