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| panda4. 12. 2008 07:10:05 |
As far as I can see, those aren't for icy terrain. But a remark to Viharnik: if you already mentioned the front attachment of crampons, you could have pictured it so that the "mention" is visible. Intentional or just sloppiness. I don't know.
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| viharnik4. 12. 2008 07:33:54 |
Grivel snowshoes unfortunately are not produced anymore. Someone said that they made too good ones back then. Maybe too expensive production compared to the competition. I have had them for 8 years and they are undamaged - like new, with a series of tours behind me. These snowshoes (for whoever has them) are far more useful on steep ascents, side inclined terrains and deep snow (they have multiple possibilities to extend the snowshoe itself at the back and thus get a larger area - less sinking). Snowshoes, when icy (crust), with heel setting for slope, hold securely and break the crust. They also have effective spikes on the bottom, so no problem. But the snowshoes are mainly meant for walking in deep snow and approaches from below the wall (alpinists). The crampons have front shell twisted, like all models of this manufacturer (visible in the picture in front, side circles). Grivel also has the most effective plastic heel cups (according to mountaineers) against snow buildup.
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| urshy25. 11. 2009 08:47:09 |
I'm reading this thread, but something isn't clear to me - I'd need crampons, but not for steep slopes, just in winter when the snow ices up and it's smart to have them up there, even if I don't go into the wall. I mean for winter hikes on so-called ''easy marked trails'', if I use the categorization you use on hribi.net.
I looked in the store and saw crampons that had basically just a few metal ''buttons'' up front. I imagined crampons differently, more pointy, and I don't understand how those 'buttons' can protect from slipping.
On the other hand, in another store I only saw crampons with points also in front, i.e. more for walls, vertical paths. That's too much again, because I don't plan to climb ice.
So what do you advise? That or shoe covers I'll check later myself, basically I'm interested what type of crampons to look for - if you attach a link or pic I'll be even happier, since it's my first time buying them.
Thanks a lot.
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| medo*25. 11. 2009 09:08:08 |
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| urshy25. 11. 2009 10:05:55 |
Isn't that too much?  I need for walking, not climbing, exactly with those I thought they were too aggressive...
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| urshy25. 11. 2009 10:12:18 |
This article is really good considering I'm a beginner. Thanks, medo*
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| igva25. 11. 2009 10:13:14 |
4 or 6 point crampons are more than enough for what you need. I have 6 points, bought them at Iglu sport and have been happy with them for years. Such crampons have points under the sole, but not in front. You simply mount them on any boot.
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| urshy25. 11. 2009 10:29:59 |
so 6 points without front spike? What kind of hikes do you do with them without problems?
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| urshy25. 11. 2009 10:30:58 |
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| lynx25. 11. 2009 10:37:58 |
What's so bad about aluminum ones? I'm thinking about them for use on ski touring descents, where there are no rocks, but they are half as heavy as classic ones.
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| samoa25. 11. 2009 14:04:13 |
For easier winter hikes I personally use plastic crampons with four points, which seem quite sufficient to me from TEHNOMAT in Kranj. And in summer they come in handy in the backpack for crossing some snowfield.
They also do well on ice, I'm satisfied with them.
I've had them for about ten years now.
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| urshy26. 11. 2009 10:47:20 |
Thanks a lot. I'll buy the 6-point ones, that'll be plenty.
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| heinz26. 11. 2009 12:57:24 |
For something lighter or less demanding (not too steep and icy), those 6-point Promontane ones are a good option, while the plastic 4-point ones from Tehnomat are only for city walking and snowy/icy flat ground. Even if the ad says they can be used for hill walking and even if they work for some there, it doesn't mean they generally suffice. Same for those iron "buttons" and chains; they don't belong among mountaineering gear.
Someone might add "better this than nothing", but for sure, in case of "nothing" in winter mountains we have no business there.
Good luck, heinz!
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| viharnik26. 11. 2009 14:52:55 |
In K2 store, I noticed new Grivel crampons, which have steel spikes (angled ferrules) on plastic base, smaller than usual 6 crampon teeth and thus less awkward for walking on mixed ground (snow,ice,asphalt,sand)-perfect for trampled lower mountains.
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| GričarA4. 01. 2010 21:27:46 |
I plan to buy crampons (classic ones) these seem most suitable to me: http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?&cID=5&scID=36&pID=2605 , but I saw that hribi.net (shop) also has some snowshoes/crampons does anyone have them? how do they perform?
I'd hike around +-2000m (Raduha, Korosica, Storžic, Stol, maybe some Grintavec...
What do you recommend more?
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| tol4. 01. 2010 22:54:19 |
Theoretically they explained to me that for hiking it's mainly good:
-steel, not aluminum crampons
-10 points not 12
-the second two front points more vertical/upright positioned
-front points also not too horizontal and not too long
This I summed from a mountain guide and it applies to "hiking" crampons, i.e. with which you walk not climb.
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| GričarA5. 01. 2010 20:55:04 |
What about those snowshoes that have 4 points, but do they work on frozen snow? In my opinion I'll regret if I buy them, because not for soft snow nor for icy.
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| JusAvgustin6. 01. 2010 23:44:48 |
Snowshoes are not meant for icy and steep slopes. They perform well in sinking snow (celc). They are for hiking not climbing. For climbing also hiking crampons are not meant, but climbing ones (monopoint, adjustable front points). But need to learn walking in crampons and with snowshoes first. Using crampons without ice axe can be big mistake. Same as using snowshoes on steep slope... I personally don't use snowshoes.
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| viharnik7. 01. 2010 06:00:13 |
With good snowshoes you can get almost everywhere. It's important not to hit snow holes on the way; on more demanding, steeper sections, thicker crust that breaks. For snowshoes it's important to have a front downward-curved crampon, not only forward like TSL, and preferably crampon-spikes under the sole. Grivel (don't make them anymore) also thought of oval-slotted construction of the plastic snowshoe frame, which additionally works well on diagonal traversing of steep terrain - snow grips the mold under it and cuts the step.
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| abece8. 01. 2010 18:53:36 |
Hi! Can you advise which crampons to buy for La Sportiva Trango S Evo GTX boot? They told me semi-automatic, I'd use them for winter ascents like e.g. Snežnik, Viševnik etc. and summer snowfield crossings or glacier approaches. If maybe in years I buy winter boots, can I now get crampons that fit both? Thanks for info and great experiences to all!
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