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| IgorZlodej29. 10. 2013 16:33:18 |
I have ones with plastic below, they are for touring boots, quite usable.
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| simonerjavec29. 10. 2013 16:34:35 |
@igorzlodej, did you get the plates for the boots included or buy them separately?
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| IgorZlodej29. 10. 2013 17:37:32 |
They were already like that in the original.
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| bmare28. 11. 2013 21:39:48 |
I recommend Camp 12 points. Buy ones that already have rubber (against balling). If you don't like those, semi-automatic ones fit your boot too, front rubber rear strap, like on this link:
http://www.iglusport.si/dereze-sarken-ll
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| smatjaz28. 11. 2013 22:01:31 |
They don't look bad at all, Thanks
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| Maemi28. 11. 2013 23:24:06 |
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| JusAvgustin29. 11. 2013 05:55:49 |
If that's the case, buy Petzl Sarken LL, or Grivel G12 semi-automatic.
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| smatjaz29. 11. 2013 23:16:26 |
Thanks everyone for the reply, I'll probably really follow Juš's advice, because if I once climb to 1800 m, it will probably pull me further sooner or later and then it would be a more expensive investment to get better ones than if I do it right away, because 40 euros shouldn't be a safety issue 
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| VesnaM30. 11. 2013 07:26:54 |
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| Meto1. 11. 2014 12:12:26 |
The groove has nothing to do with crampons, on the boots you can strap at most classic crampons.
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| Igor8314. 12. 2014 13:34:44 |
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| Sitback30. 12. 2018 13:50:12 |
Hello, I have Alpina Tibet and Ladakh classic boots, and I'm interested how they perform with classic crampons on winter ascents of Slovenian two-thousanders? Is this an ok combination, or is it necessary to buy winter mountaineering boots?
Thanks for the answer!
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| boogle30. 04. 2019 13:16:54 |
Hello, I'm considering buying specific 12-point crampons for hiking. So far I've managed mid-mountains with strap-ons but ambitions for next season have grown. Now there are sales so I'm already looking a bit. At the same time I'm thinking of buying a winter pair of boots that don't soak through in snow for 5+ hours.
I don't plan to ice climb, but I'd like to go in winter e.g. to Stol, Grintavec and eventually with enough experience to Triglav.
The dilemma where I need advice is whether to buy automatic crampons and suitable boots or semi-automatic "set".
If you have any specific suggestion regarding crampon and boot models please, thanks. Best!
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| edoo30. 04. 2019 15:22:26 |
Hello
12-point crampons like those in the picture above (bmare) which you can put on any boot and you can go to Triglav. They cost around 60 euros. Automatic or semi-automatic ones are not necessary, but an ice axe is needed, for Triglav it's good to have two, depending on conditions.
For boots it's important that they fit you well and it's not bad to wear them in the store for quite some time. I have a weird foot shape and LaSportiva Nepal fitted me best, which everyone praises so much, but to me they are nothing special given how expensive they are. They withstand moisture sometimes, not always, but not the cold.
Sometimes for undemanding winter conditions, or long approaches on dry ground I use Alpina Tibet, because it's a bit of a pity to wear expensive LaSportiva on sharp rocks. Price difference is at least 3:1, though these two boots aren't comparable, since Tibet is more of a summer boot.
For very hard snow and steep terrain it's important that the boot is stiff (winter boots are stiff anyway), whereas on easier terrain or softer snow it doesn't matter. The bigger problem is that they don't get soaked on all-day hike on wet snow. Maintenance is important too and I think applying cream is better than spray.
You can of course put as much money into it as you want.
That's my opinion, what do others say?
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| Trobec30. 04. 2019 18:12:41 |
Automatic or at least semi-automatic crampons hold better on boots, so the step is more stable, especially in harder conditions. Of course boots must be adapted. Those for automatic crampons are usually more expensive. Well, at Alpina you can get ones for automatic quite affordably when on sale under 150€.
I use Alpinine Peak, crampons CT Nuptse, I think they are the cheapest automatic on the market and served me well on many trips.
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| dprapr30. 04. 2019 19:18:59 |
If you get regular hiking ones, for harder tours you'll need stiff boots so they don't "come off". Also, when snow is very hard, crusty, these crampons aren't the best. Especially if steep terrain.
Better are semi-automatic or automatic, because more reliable, especially on mixed terrain (rock, ice, snow). I lean more towards automatic, as they serve me well.
When you hike more, you'll have both, on different boots.
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| darinka430. 04. 2019 20:00:48 |
I have had universal Camp crampons 12 points so far, which went well on Alpina Tibet boots.
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