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| Keko22. 12. 2012 00:02:40 |
Regarding these crampons I'd just give my opinion. These crampons are meant for mountain hiking and easier ice approaches. They are by no means meant for hard ice climbs and hammering into ice with full force. For those get ice climbing crampons with stronger replaceable front points, overall such crampons are much heavier. If someone wants to destroy crampons, they'll destroy any they put on.
With normal use these crampons last a very long time too and no need to worry excessively. In the end everything has its death anyway.
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| Swiss23. 12. 2012 09:48:31 |
Hello!
"Keko"! Your response is well argued. I agree. The stainless "claws" of this manufacturer are intended exactly for what you wrote. The links on previous pages and the entries on those links are misleading. Between the lines they describe use in extreme ice conditions and climbing it. These "claws" are not meant for that.
Best regards and happy in the mountains!
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| ljubitelj gora27. 12. 2012 13:56:19 |
12-tooth classic crampons, 1 year old and I've put them on about 15x. Rust on ends not such problem yet, but between joints it's already building up.
Also checked brother's BD and no rust, nor paint peeling. Bought in Kibuba really cheap for 80 euros, but not little money for such crampons when you're constantly worried they'll break at joints somewhere. If buying buy for years, looks like crap, you get what you pay for. I have semi-auto BD ones too.
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| strelec195410. 01. 2013 17:27:10 |
Salewa automatic crampons are quite old, just like me...
From the time when anti-balling plates for crampons were rare. If maybe someone has plates that fit these crampons, some universal or similar.
That with "polyvinyl" bags under the boot I know, but it's a sadder solution.
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| lakkon14. 01. 2013 21:02:25 |
Yes, even in winter in the snow you have to go to see the high mountains. Of course even more sensibly, of which I am very aware. I would go only a few times a year, only in nice weather, on easy, perhaps partially demanding marked paths, without any real climbing.
Some examples: Debela peč (2014 m), Rombon (2208 m), Grintovec (2558 m), Velika Raduha (2062 m), Begunjščica (2060 m), Kordeževa glava (Peca) (2125 m), Stol (2236 m), Veliki vrh (Košuta) (2088 m), Črna prst (1844 m), Rodica (1966 m), Golica (1835 m), Govca (Olševa) (1929 m))
I have these boots:
http://www.superge.si/AKU/zenith-ii-ltr-aku-11ss-8160750/
Are they suitable for perhaps even multi-hour walking in snow? It would be best to test them now in this snow with gaiters (I have them). I plan to make additional water- and snow-proof protection for the front part, which I would use especially in wetter snow.
From gear I lack only crampons for high mountains. Which ones would be suitable for my AKU boots and which specific ones would you recommend and why? 12- or 10-point? From the info here it seems more like 12. If possible, decent quality for as little money as possible, ideally up to 100 eur. Automatics probably out?
If 12-point, I would almost prefer
http://kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5134
or
http://kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5135
if 10-point then:
http://www.iglusport.si/?mod=store&action=viewProduct&action_id=26631&language=sl
OK choice? Any additional advice?
Otherwise still considering:
CLASSIC CRAMPONS
http://www.bivak.si/45_Oprema/46_Zimska-oprema/52_Dereze/i_286_dereze-treking
http://www.iglusport.si/dereze-univerzalne-magix-10
http://www.bivak.si/45_Oprema/46_Zimska-oprema/52_Dereze/i_287_dereze-tirol
http://www.iglusport.si/dereze-stalker-s-plastiko
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=3998
http://www.bivak.si/45_Oprema/46_Zimska-oprema/52_Dereze/i_154_dereze-vasak
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=3583
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5895
SEMI-AUTOMATIC CRAMPONS
http://www.iglusport.si/dereze-stalker-avtomatske-new-binding-fast
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5896
AUTOMATIC CRAMPONS
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5136
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=5137
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=74
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?concise=1&cID=5&scID=36&pID=3581
Would you recommend any others in this price range and why?
Thanks for the help and successful hiking in 2013!
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| jax14. 01. 2013 21:25:00 |
Semi-automatic or automatic crampons just forget, your hiking boots aren't for that. As for their general suitability for winter, they're robust enough and should be fine for easier tours. As for that "protection" for the front part, not sure exactly what you mean. With proper impregnation and gaiters water shouldn't get in, at least if not really super old.
Of course these aren't technical winter boots and not for demanding winter mountaineering. But for what you mentioned, they'll do fine.
Oh, crampons 12-point. Thumbs up.
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| Škrtoc8. 02. 2013 20:26:26 |
I'm interested in buying crampons
Mount track - manufacturer Veriga Lesce, what do you advise, are there any others? I'd use crampons occasionally for hikes in mid-mountains.
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| kofetarca8. 02. 2013 22:01:25 |
Škrtoc, I got this model new this winter and I'm very satisfied with them. Before I had only those 4-tooth ones for the middle part of the boot, which slipped off easily and couldn't be fixed tightly. So I can warmly recommend buying Mount track crampons. Regards
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| Lj9. 02. 2013 08:21:40 |
I also have good experience with these crampons. I have their first model without strap over heel and they often "came off" in deep snow. Now I have their latest model with strap, more and longer teeth and they serve me well.
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| ljubitelj gora9. 02. 2013 12:53:54 |
Crampons and ice axes, no worry about buying, even if you decide to sell later during season the gear sells fast.
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| janez.novak5. 03. 2013 11:57:48 |
Today, on the winter path to the hut on Goliča, I found small Salewa crampons. Whoever lost them can get them from me - tel: 031/536 176
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| VesnaM26. 07. 2013 16:48:24 |
hey.. I'm wondering if anyone knows where to buy semi-automatic crampons which can then be ''converted'' to automatic? for example  Lynx crampons from Petzl... last year they were everywhere on sale.. this year nowhere... maybe someone knows a similar model?
thanks and regards
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| Zebdi26. 07. 2013 17:03:19 |
Petzl representative for Slovenia is Treking sport; surely they will tell you who has them or if it's possible to order them. You can also get them via Ebay 
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| keber128. 10. 2013 16:13:40 |
Iglu has some still in stock:
http://www.iglusport.si/dereze-polavtomatske-lynx
I'm interested (as I'm buying new crampons for new winter boots-LS Nepal EVO), what other models allow switch between semi-auto and auto, not purely hiking crampons - useful sometimes for tours with summer boots where snow only short part of tour, not to damage winter boots too much on scree
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| matejn29. 10. 2013 02:49:58 |
Cassin blade runner. But you can also get just the front attachments from Grivel and Camp. Good luck with our importers
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| keber129. 10. 2013 09:55:22 |
Wow, these Cassins are really cool, and the price isn't that bad (especially if I sell my classics which are in good condition):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enj83WVOios
I see they're out of stock elsewhere in Europe too, it'll really be tough with our importers.
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| jedriličar29. 10. 2013 10:14:56 |
@keber1: think well, my experience with such universal tools (haven't tried these crampons, so with a disclaimer in advance) is that usually these universal devices that try to satisfy all requirements don't satisfy any, except the basic one that they look like the tool they want to be. So ask around well, these crampons try to be accessible, climbing, dry-tooling, and .... , so they don't turn out to be nothing and you waste money in vain. And getting to the base of the rock with walking variant, then change teeth and make it climbing, forget that, whoever tried doing something with crampons at minus ten degrees knows it's an impossible mission. But of course, just my humble opinion, I prefer walking in climbing crampons than climbing in walking ones ... so my advice, if you've outgrown walking crampons, buy good climbing ones and the matter is solved. Lp and safe steps this winter ....
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