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| pelican10. 12. 2011 15:16:08 |
kolobar, thanks for the reply...
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| užitkar12. 12. 2011 22:15:43 |
Thanks everyone for the replies. After today's marathon of trying boots (garmont, lowa, salewa, jack wolfskin, la sportiva) I concluded that la sportiva really fits my foot best, but with two socks it was too tight so I ordered a half size larger La Sportiva TRANGO ALP GTX, and I can hardly wait to test them
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| Stumby13. 12. 2011 21:49:37 |
does anyone have experiences with la sportiva nepal extreme boots, and nepal evo gtx, and what are the essential differences between them...i'm in the buying phase, haven't tried any on my foot yet, generally interested...also interested in comparison of these two with alpina teton, given they are much cheaper, question if they are comparable in quality (supposedly much heavier- how much?)...i plan to use the boots for all forms of winter alpinism and mountaineering (ice climbing, mixed, gullies, approaches)...Lp
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| matejn13. 12. 2011 22:29:05 |
As a newly baked owner of the Nepal Evo model, impatiently awaiting the first chance to test it in nature, I can only help theoretically, with info I managed to get in the buying phase.
The models differ in that Evo is lined with Goretex membrane, is a bit higher, has some mini elastic gaiter that squeezes you a bit above the ankle, you also get another tongue for adjusting the boot's internal volume. Also the Evo model is supposed to be a bit more flexible in the ankle area, basically more for technical climbing - mixed and ice. But Extreme model is a bit warmer.
From reading tests and reviews, various ones, for these two boot models, I got the impression they are seen as some of the best you can buy right now. In this class of course. There is another highly praised model (Scarpa Mont Blanc), but you'll need lots of luck to find it around here.
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| JusAvgustin14. 12. 2011 14:44:36 |
worth considering buying Batura EVO...
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| jure197714. 12. 2011 15:49:03 |
Let me chime in about summer boots (also for scrambling). This year I bought La Sportiva Trango S Evo GTX. Great boot for ascent and super grip on rock (scrambling, easier climbing), but I had quite some pain walking downhill. Soles were bright red, which never happened to me before. That the boot is stiff is good on one hand, on the other it's at least for my taste less comfortable downhill. Before them I used Asolo boots, which are much more comfortable.
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| joža x15. 12. 2011 10:39:15 |
They are no brand to "show off" with them; a Gorenjska shoemaker made them (forgot the name). With them I was 6 times on Triglav, walked around 150 tours, Slo. pl. pot.... etc. But they didn't cross the border and aren't some world brand, which is most important to most.
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| JusAvgustin15. 12. 2011 14:37:31 |
I'm interested in how your "sneakers" would perform in winter alpinism (which is the topic), because if you read carefully, LS extreme and LS evo etc... are for winter alpinism and not "strolling" 
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| Stumby16. 12. 2011 01:02:19 |
Today I tried the three (Alpina Teton, LS Extreme and EVO)... Alpina somehow didn't fit me, and they are heavy as f***, both Evo GTX and Extreme felt super on the foot at first impression, only the sizes are smaller, so I had to order 46 (normally I have foot 45)... Evo GTX seemed somehow narrower, and less "broken in", so given that I walk a lot too, I'll most likely take Extreme, and save 50 € ... regarding Batura they are almost 100 € more expensive, that's way too much for a student budget ...
@joža: I don't know why anyone would show off with brands... I too had summer Planika gojzari, with which I did around 100 various tours on scree, off paths and via ferratas and they were great, but that's junk you can't compare to winter mountaineering boots... it's like comparing a regular personal car to a snowcat
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| joža x16. 12. 2011 12:18:01 |
The topic title is hiking boots, so.... I wouldn't get into the alpinism debate (no clue). But my boots (sneakers, shoes) were made by a shoemaker in his workshop; there's something in them... and they weren't glued together by 10-year-old Taiwanese working for a handful of rice a day, for multinationals that with their tricks convince (most) that their boots do almost miracles on the feet; no need to bring them from the other end of the world etc... Buy Slovenian.
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| matejn16. 12. 2011 13:05:14 |
I agree regarding buying local products. I would also buy a home-made version of the Nepal Evo boot..... if someone knew how to make it.
As for LS and Scarpa (and not just these two brands) you can be sure that they produce their best models nicely at home, in Italy. Guaranteed.
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| dare2930. 12. 2011 08:55:31 |
What's your opinion on classic leather stitched gojzars, like Meindl super perfect? Maybe some user can share their experiences?
Nice day
Dare
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| lynx30. 12. 2011 10:06:56 |
I swear by double leather boots and currently I'm wearing Meindl ones. They're heavier, but all-year and waterproof. I'd recommend rather a model with the lower part rubberized, because that's where it gets damaged first.
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| GregorC30. 12. 2011 10:12:44 |
These were some of the best boots I've had. Admittedly as a kid but they were awesome. With regular maintenance waterproof, foot had good support, true they were heavier. They were Ratitovec brand, made in Železniki. Apparently now there's one shoemaker who still makes them.
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| dare2930. 12. 2011 10:30:21 |
Yeah that rubber is exactly giving me problems. Such different feet, moreover quite non-standard, that usually I can only choose which one will hurt more in new boots. With those I hope they'll mold to each foot separately. Maybe some other model, other manufacturer?
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| lynx30. 12. 2011 10:40:15 |
Planika makes similar (they sew for Meindl too). No dilemma, I meant rubber protection on the outer leather part - e.g. those protruding seams below (usually 1 or 2 cm strip around).
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| JusAvgustin30. 12. 2011 11:20:54 |
Before becoming a fervent LS advocate I had gojzarje i.e. hiking boots from Planika. No complaints, even in winter for easy tours. And not super cheap! After Planika I got LS Karakorum Pro GTX, which I literally demolished in a year and a half (rock, snow, ice, lots climbed), though the shop said at least five years. Sole practically gone, rubber peeled from daily use. Only for gmajna now. Then bought Trango Prime, excellent technical winter climbing boot, light, durable, soft... On Ganda Guide I've written much, maybe just new ones from warranty hold and wear well. Bought Trango Guide too, great for climbing, off-trail. Point is, where do Slovenian makers have such a range for different stuff. Can't even make one climber boot! One experience, partner changed this year from Teton to Millet... "how stupid not to do sooner" climbed lots in Alps. Still day/night. That's my experiences. Some alpine enough, others Nepal to Šmarna gora, whatever...
Next year Batura 2.0 GTX to Slovenia, curious what neighbors made...
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| som6930. 12. 2011 11:43:01 |
No, no Juš time to stop being stubborn and climb back down the tree. I respect your opinion and advice on ALPINE footwear, for most other recreational hill-goers and portal users it's pure exaggeration. To illustrate: for our roads no Ferrari needed.
In the end wish all safe steps in 2012 and lots of nice tours.
Lp
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| knap422730. 12. 2011 11:43:45 |
I'll still wear out Teton , just till the scree vs snow or ice ratio turns for the first. And good for fitness too.
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| JusAvgustin30. 12. 2011 12:27:14 |
som69: well nothing else left if you're threatening with motorbike... You Matej drop thumbs already once...
Happy healthy and big pines!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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