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| jax5. 02. 2013 12:58:39 |
If you'll really only use them for that, I don't know if you need something so robust (and expensive).
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| ljubitelj gora5. 02. 2013 14:27:08 |
Tetons are heavy, robust mountaineering boots for gullies, ice climbing; for that sale price, no other choice. For visiting e.g. winter Stol, Kredarica, Storžič, Grintovec, even summer ones are OK. If buying, then get some all-year ones with a notch for semi-automatic crampons; classic crampons will be OK too. Of course, even the best Teton winter boot in bad snow (others not very satisfied) is still better than any summer boot. With a summer boot, from my experience, it twists too much when walking with crampons, bends over; I got "eyes" on the soles (that hurts)... and that's exactly why I got them at the sale price... only for winter tours and nothing else.
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| lakkon11. 02. 2013 16:25:08 |
I get emails from sports stores and noticed these Kamik boots:
http://www.superge.si/Kamik/fargo-black-kamik-8416457/
listed under hiking category.
one video about them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knaL6Bw5ztQ
do you think such boots could be suitable for hikes in mid-mountains and other less demanding, less steep winter trips when there's really wet snow or the path isn't broken in yet? they seem to have pretty high waterproof rubber or whatever, which could be OK. And some protection around. if the sole is decent enough, maybe even mount track crampons could fit on them, though I really doubt the latter.
full description here:
Men's winter boots KAMIK. The upper part is made of rubber in the lower section and is thus completely waterproof up to the height of the rubberized part. The upper leather part has welded seams and provides good protection against external moisture. For frost protection, the inside is lined with THINSULATE 200 (200g) thermal insulation suitable for temperatures down to -40 degrees Celsius. Metal lace hooks allow quick lacing. Mid-high upper and built-in insole provide comfortable and secure foot positioning. For better foot insulation, you need a bit more space in the boot than in regular shoes, so the inside is roomier and the boots are made only in whole US sizes: USA7-EUR40, USA8-EUR41, USA9-EUR42.5, USA10-EUR44, USA11-EUR45, USA12-EUR46, USA13-EUR47.5, USA14-EUR48.5. Color: BLACK.
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| geppo11. 02. 2013 16:51:16 |
I think this boot is perfectly suitable for mid-mountains. The price isn't too bad either.
I use several different pairs of boots, depending on the tour's difficulty. A few years ago I bought boots from a store that doesn't sell famous brands, and they served me VERY well for quite a few years. The sole wore out (after about 5 years). Everything else held up without issues. Later I used them even in high mountains where I knew there would be scree. The boots passed everything successfully.
The price of these you're interested in isn't that high and they should serve you well for mid-mountains...
regards
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| lakkon11. 02. 2013 17:05:26 |
yeah, I also think they'd be OK on snow, maybe not exactly on ice and for steeper slopes where crampons should already be used, if nothing else for extra safety. but the latter probably aren't quite compatible with these boots. they're likely not stiff enough and would flex. I called the store a bit earlier and the seller said these aren't suitable hiking boots. not e.g. for Trdinov vrh. more for enjoying snow, for hunters etc... probably the issue is the sole, not stiff enough. but until you see these boots, try them in the store, you can't know anyway, right?
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| geppo11. 02. 2013 17:40:35 |
Of course unsuitable for crampons. You have to know where you'll use them? For visiting mid-mountains they are probably perfectly fine.
regards
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| main11. 02. 2013 18:05:50 |
Lakkon, these boots aren't suitable for hiking. More suitable for watching ski races, jumps or for hunters waiting in the cold. The inside of these boots is thick felt. The outer boot is leather and rubber. But they are very warm, I have similar ones for shoveling snow and stepping into the store or getting wood from the woodshed in winter...
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| lakkon11. 02. 2013 21:05:12 |
yeah, the seller told me they're made more for standing around in the cold than for walking about. supposedly they get quite hot inside, which isn't suitable or best for walking itself. maybe with thinner socks or even that not. probably like some kind of boots. and at home I often work in them and even in winter I often get quite hot. no proper breathability. well, I'll go look at these boots anyway and decide on the spot if they can be useful for something. for half-day easy tours maybe. we'll see...
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| katty11. 02. 2013 21:24:15 |
@Bosstjan, I bought them just before New Year, and I've already used them on some tours: Vrtaški vrh, Ratitovec a couple times, Velika Planina, some hills, various stuff, they really rubbed my little toe, but so far they've performed excellently ... Really worth every euro....Great for snow. I recommend them...they're really quite sturdy and heavy 
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| Baer12. 02. 2013 12:49:08 |
Classic gojzarji. Hello,
I'd like some advice on classic gojzarji. I'm buying gojzarji like I remember they made 30 years ago (all leather, sewn...). On the internet I found that companies like Fitwell, Meindl, Steinkogler, Hanwag make them - especially the last three are quite expensive.
But I found a page of a Slovenian manufacturer who makes classic gojzarji to order. Here's the link:
http://www.cevljar.eu/gojzarji/434288-gojzarji-6750.html
I'm interested in what you think about these Slovenian gojzarji, should I dare to buy them, what do you think about how long they'll last, does anyone have experiences with this manufacturer and has anyone heard of them.
Best regards to all!
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| lakkon12. 02. 2013 21:26:34 |
went to Tomas sport2 to check the boots I mentioned here:
http://www.superge.si/Kamik/fargo-black-kamik-8416457/. they are also 48 eur for that price in the store.
I have foot size 42, I tried size 44.
Impressions?
they are really 'richly' lined inside and if the boot isn't defective - which I saw in a couple of descriptions on amazon.com - it should be comfortably warm in them and they shouldn't leak. thin summer hiking socks fit too. that rubber goes high from 5 cm in front to almost 8 cm in back. what positively surprised me is the quite stiff, non-flexing sole. from the side and front there is hard rubber protection. walking in them is easy and even easier than in Alpina Annapurna, which I bought earlier (for high mountains or everywhere).
well, I got these now too. they'll be multi-purpose: kicking snow, for extra cold and ultimately for hiking in mid-mountains when paths aren't icy. and I put Mount Track crampons on them at home
http://www.natv.si/pohodniske-dereze.html
they fit perfectly, the boot didn't flex almost at all. I didn't feel any difference, no extra pressure on the foot. maybe I'll try them on ice somewhere. for hiking I'll use them on less demanding non-icy terrains in mid-mountains, only on snow-covered paths. well, the sole isn't that bad and even on some rocky terrain it would work, but sensibly.
I'll test them this weekend, the weather seems good, will report.
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| lakkon16. 02. 2013 22:41:42 |
today I was on Lubnik:
http://www.hribi.net/izlet/skofja_loka__vincarje_lubnik_grebenska_pot/21/135/2483
Conditions were perfect for testing these boots I already mentioned here:
http://www.superge.si/Kamik/fargo-black-kamik-8416457/.
start at 11.30. The whole path was in snow, trodden, packed, but not icy at all. Pure enjoyment up and down. Much nicer than on bare ground, since you really don't need to watch every step, roots etc. even on steep sections no slipping, up and down. I had no crampons. had those thin kind of therapeutic Salomon summer hiking socks. it was just right warm in the boots, not hot at all. at least for me it's pleasant to walk in them. And they're not heavy at all. So I recommend them for conditions like today. I even walked or ran down faster for a while without issues. honestly though I wouldn't walk in them on mostly snow-free more demanding paths, since basically they aren't real hiking boots and would probably wear out sooner, and something bad could happen to me. maybe not, but I won't test that myself, since I don't plan to test them on rocks, roots etc.
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| janez.novak19. 02. 2013 18:10:32 |
I'd like to share another of my experiences, namely with replacing the worn-out rubber. I have summer boots Lowa Tibet. I took them to Promontana, who sent the boots to the factory in Germany. They replaced the entire sole and protective rubber, put in new insoles and laces, and special impregnation cream. The repair cost me about 30% of the price of new boots. They look like new.
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| bruny14. 03. 2013 21:19:10 |
I do hiking activities with Salomon shoes and since it was and  still snowy winter - nevertheless decision for purchase mainly higher footwear. I browsed the net a bit and decided on a store nearby. I eyed this model due to favorable references, tried and also got it...Karrimor skido I've done quite some activities already and they serve the purpose excellently. Suits me also because the model is wide and relatively light. Shame that the model wasn't available in the store...Karrimor Orkney 5-maybe some other time. Lp
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| marii19. 03. 2013 09:43:06 |
I'm buying hiking boots that I'd use for summer one-day ascents to our peaks, towards the end of summer for Triglav. I've decided on Alpina. I'm interested if anyone has experience with the Nepal model: http://www.alpinasports.com/product/nepal_lady/121
or Ladakh: http://www.alpinasports.com/product/ladakh/125. I'm leaning towards one of these. Do you think they are too rough for my intended use?
Also interested in when the usual discounts on hiking footwear are and how much, now they have -35%...probably hard to expect cheaper?
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| Katja6619. 03. 2013 10:12:49 |
With the Tibet model I've been walking the whole year already, the other two I don't know. In summer I walked quite a few km in 10 vacation days in the mountains, now I use them once a week, they haven't given me any problems.
Somewhere in February last year (I really can't remember exactly) I bought them with 40% discount.
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| marii19. 03. 2013 19:46:45 |
Thanks for the opinion Katja
Now I was in the store and had Tibet and Nepal on my feet. Still can't decide what I'd rather have. Tibet has softer sole and bends, Nepal is much more rough and stiff.
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| ljubitelj gora19. 03. 2013 19:56:51 |
With Tibet expect that the profile will wear quite a bit and then they replace it for you for 40 euros. Don't know how to write to you, I calculated they lasted me around 60 very demanding tours. With Tibet I was many places, regarding my wallet it was the best purchase and then decision, even now I have them in the box brand new. Why Tibet I already wrote in previous comments, for me they are awesome, except as you found out they are soft, consequently you feel the rocks a bit more, but that shouldn't be a minus in the decision, good also for ferratas. Was with them roughly 2x-3x on all our peaks, even winter, on Očaku around 7x with these gojzarji, last year 3x winter. Now if someone has 300 euros extra then normally buys some decent boot for 200-300 euros, Tibet is cheaper but definitely one of the best in the offer.
No experience with Nepal.
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| marii19. 03. 2013 20:55:22 |
Thanks, ljubitelj gora
Well, if you've already walked so much in them then they must be good. As for the price, there is a 13€ difference between the models (if I consider the current discount), by feel I'd really say that Nepal belongs to a slightly pricier category, they also have a rougher profile.
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| žan119. 03. 2013 20:57:59 |
I recommend Alpina Teton to you.
For me this gojzdar is awesome. lp
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