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djimuzl18. 04. 2020 11:52:24
"Attack on mountaineering", as egocentric individuals call the temporary discouragement of movement in the high mountains, was "triggered" by PZS and GRS for all clear reasons.

The hypocrisy and lies we witness in the posts and comments of these individuals stem solely from their impatience, selfishness, social maladjustment, and immaturity.

This only confirms Boštjan MK's thought on the neighboring forum: "Whoever can't wait is not worthy of any mountain."
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bogorski18. 04. 2020 12:44:13
With the new slogan you are not proving your (greater) value - quite the opposite ...
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djimuzl18. 04. 2020 13:51:22
Some deny or downplay the problem also by discrediting those who point it out. I have no doubt they will tackle this too:

"The mountains will wait, but the medical staff already has so much work without providing aid to unwise hikers."

Kamnik resident Matjaž Šerkezi, professional associate of PZS and mountain rescue instructor

https://www.delo.si/prosti-cas/rekreacija/bodimo-koristi-ne-pa-le-kritiki-druzbe-medtem-ko-jamramo-da-je-zmanjkalo-kvasa-288463.html

Those convinced of their superiority are the ones who place themselves above the entire community and above organizations expressing justified concern for the public good.
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Boštjan MK18. 04. 2020 15:09:15
The mountains have been beautiful for thousands of years and they will wait too...

"When I returned from the most magnificent parts of the Laš and German Alps to quiet Zajzera or Planica, all the great Dolomite pictures faded before the quiet beauty of our valleys.
Why?
I saw them for the first time, the impressions of their beauty remained indelible. That is my love for the homeland, the essence of my spiritual enjoyment in the Alps."
H. Tuma

All the best!
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djimuzl21. 04. 2020 03:44:59
Sharing therapy and the Bible with others helps too nasmeh
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zokipoki21. 04. 2020 08:36:38
Give it a rest, let Šerkezi or Jesus himself read this. I go to the mountains when I feel like it and when I feel like it, and yeah, I'm lucky the mountains are in my home municipality. Those who can't go now, sorry, I know how it is, I can't always either, there are obligations and other unpredictable events. Something could happen to me today and I'll never walk again, you never know. The health system is burdened one way or another, we're in danger every day one way or another, and we're all a bit selfish one way or another. The neighbor beats kids, someone drives like a maniac on the road every day, endangering everything that crawls and walks. Give it a rest. If we always played such picky games, it would really be pointless in an already frustrated society. Everyone gets their due.
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fpetel121. 04. 2020 08:48:33
Most people work for the good of others, only a few want to destroy. Bans have always existed and must exist - if they are too mild or too strict, time will show, but importantly and responsibly, we must follow them and here in Slovenia we are still far ahead of nations to the east and south. Here we live, for the most part, unlike many other places, responsible and serious people. Bravo - and as few disagreements and senseless gossip as possible. Let's hope the whole world overcomes this threat from China.
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aleš k21. 04. 2020 16:30:49
"Whoever can't wait is not worthy of any mountain.".
Of course, the meaning of life is waiting and suffering. Waiting for what? We don't live 500 years!
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dprapr21. 04. 2020 17:07:00
Wait 2 or 3 months for the common good?
Sometimes we waited even longer to have enough for going to the mountains.mežikanje
Where have all the good qualities of mountain visitors gone, with which we always boasted in front of others who said we were crazy to go to the mountains?
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aleš k21. 04. 2020 17:24:10
No misunderstanding. No problem waiting if you know why.
We're probably a bit crazy, in a good waynasmeh
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MEHOVO21. 04. 2020 17:28:09
dprapr finally wrote the right reflection,.. no wonder real mountaineers started exploring caves, because there is peace and you can't do selfies and similar nonsense, as today's "mountaineers" dovelik nasmeh
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Macesna22. 04. 2020 23:09:13
A bit more oil on the firenasmeh and a look over the fence: in Chamonix all activities in the mountains are prohibited until further notice, rescue service discontinued:

https://www.chamonix.net/english/news/pghm-chamonix-very-strict-23-march-2020
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redbull23. 04. 2020 06:02:55
Exactly like that, nice comparison.
If we stick to the mountains we'll be healthymežikanje
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parenzo23. 04. 2020 09:45:48
Primož, first let me say you're also a great humorist and not just an excellent mountaineer.
You say:
„ On the terrain as many health inspectors as possible for supervision and punishment of those not following basic rules (1.5 m distance and contact limitation). „ zmedeneek
and
„But equally "guilty" are those who stirred excessive panic, locked themselves in bunkers...„ eekzmeden
Guilty of what?

World infectologists warn that for society the sars-cov virus isn't dangerous due to the number of elderly victims—there are more than with the flu—but the focus is on its explosive infectivity, due to which (without measures!) most of the population falls ill in a short time.
The consequence is the collapse of social systems like healthcare—not only due to overcrowding, but also due to the absence of infected healthcare staff, likewise in the economy, police... etc., and society as a whole.
Most of the recovered are not able to work after one week like with the flu, but much longer; moreover, the virus leaves permanent consequences and the icing on the cake is that even if you recover from it, you're not immune but can get reinfected, because the virus constantly mutates.
As for huts abroad, it looks very bad for this year.

Stay healthy! nasmeh
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exwannabe23. 04. 2020 10:53:43
The Chinaman is convinced he'll vacation on Bled.


Some really think they're the only ones in the world.
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jax24. 04. 2020 07:47:36
Well, you know. Gotta wait for our protector JJ to pity us. Other questions are superfluous mežikanje
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fpetel124. 04. 2020 09:22:40
I'll comment.
JJ will do as neighboring countries do. Thank God we have him. If only Milančkis, we'd still have capital in Belgrade, old stall in front of the house and in quarantine because of Belgrade and Skopje and since Slo. wouldn't do what was ordered then Hej brigades would marchnasmeh Peasant wisdom says danger is not big and in mountains even less. But I don't agree with deliberate disregard of rules. That's why in Spain 500 fewer people every day because of this virus, in Germany at most 100 or less - that's the difference. Danger is the same in both countries - even if not now, it was comparable three weeks ago and Angela is not easing measures any faster than Slovenia, yet has 6x fewer cases than it had three weeks ago.
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VanSims24. 04. 2020 09:35:25
And what if breaking some stupid rule (or even harmful), e.g. that about not crossing to other municipalities? Without endangering anyone. Still follow social distance, hand hygiene, ...

Purpose of these measures was not to overload health system at first wave, not protect anyone specifically. We succeeded, now everyone must protect themselves.

For those who can't (elderly, vulnerable, insane, ...) others must. To limit elderly in homes outdoor movement (while whole country in quarantine anyway) and limit visits or allow physical separation by visitor, doesn't need expert qualification (which Gantar invokes) but healthy peasant sense!
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skalar5024. 04. 2020 10:29:01
Tadej ... in Covid 19 time, especially after closing municipal borders, understandable drop in writing about mountain conditions ...

but maybe all comments and "comments" about corona virus should be redirected to one place only, not littering everywhere with politicizing ...

forum sadly losing its basic purpose ... for deliberations on virus consequences etc. there are numerous daily portals
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Tadej24. 04. 2020 11:28:33
Hi skalar50,

thanks for warning and suggestion. Topic already exists, comments from other topics I'll gradually move to Covid 19 topic.
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