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julius21. 07. 2017 17:50:50
Turbo!
Due to the modern morals of mountain visitors (not hikers), I don't even leave poles in huts unattended or hanging on those "designated" spots. Someone comes with cheap 10€ poles, heavy as the devil, and swaps them in such self-service for...
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SamoK21. 07. 2017 18:37:41
>mountain visitors (not hikers)

First time I hear that "hiker" is a moral category...
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julius22. 07. 2017 11:05:58
SamoK!
I assume you're quite a bit younger, so you'll hear many things "for the first time". Read the "Honor Code of Slovenian Hikers", and many things will be clear to you, and your cynicism will pass too.
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jax22. 07. 2017 11:29:58
Maybe some of us have shaken off the moralistic view of just another leisure activity. Hikers are those who go to the mountains (ok, leave aside the story of hikers and mountaineers), just like fishermen are those who catch fish, footballers those who play football, and cyclists those who ride bikes. Nothing more to it.
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djimuzl22. 07. 2017 13:24:43
With the difference that cyclists must follow traffic rules, fishermen fishing rules, footballers football ones.. Or do you mean that these rules don't apply because it's a leisure activity?

And the mountaineering code, which isn't binding or mandatory for moving in mountains (hills, alps... etc.), no one would try to follow it? Because it's imposing moral norms?
I think it's just escaping responsibility.
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dprapr22. 07. 2017 13:51:15
I'd agree with Julius that time has brought changes to the mountains too. Back in our youth, it was taken for granted that no one steals. And it really was like that. You could leave gear anywhere, on the path or in front of the hut, in the hut...
Oops, but I remember that on the old Grohat, a hiker swapped my brother's shoes (exactly 40 years ago) and went down to the valley towards Rogovilec with them. The evening before, in conversation with us, he complained that he bought too big ones, but brother's fit him just right. And he "dashed" down early in the morning.
Of course, my buddy and I caught up with him before Rogovilec, swapped the shoes without bad words and went back via Arte to Raduha, where we continued the tour together.
It was an isolated case that I remember.

Now gear is more expensive, higher quality and not affordable to everyone, the media bombard us daily with shows and reports that have little to do with youth upbringing. Last time I watched the movie Gremo mi po svoje for the first time and was horrified. The boys in the movie were already in a dilemma whether they are stealing or not when they took food from the shepherd's hut.zavijanje z očmi
If we raise youth like that, no wonder bad habits come to the mountains too.
Sadly, we'll have to watch our property everywhere, even under Mrzla gora where we're debating this. Even on this path, poles were stolen from a member of our forum.
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SamoK22. 07. 2017 14:25:58
>Last time I watched Gremo mi po svoje for the first time and was outright horrified. The boys in the movie were already in a dilemma whether they steal or not when they took food from the shepherd's hut.

So they weren't hikers, if I understand correctly.
Maybe mountain visitors?
Or footballers?
No, they don't steal either, if I read correctly.
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garmont22. 07. 2017 19:21:39
And @SamoK, what did you want to say? zavijanje z očmi
Or Samo, show up...cool
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jvali27. 07. 2017 11:39:32
dprapr, lijaneja, grega z brega: first thanks everyone for the answers. I even laughed heartily at them!nasmeh So, for Saturday it was plan B, instead of Mrzla gora we visited Rjavina with friends, up the climbing path and over the ridge to Staničeva hut, then a jump to Begunjski vrh - as the sun sets, and then next morning after sunrise, back to the valley via Tominškova. It was wonderful. So, Mrzla gora still awaits me. Fear - well, partly because of the name (Mr-Zla), partly because it has an optional stamp in the booklet, that says something about accessibility, or I drew it that way in my head. I'll check in when I meet her. Happy trails everyone! Valerija
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lepenatka27. 07. 2017 12:04:43
Despite long years of hiking "career", I left Mrzla gora waiting very long.
With great respect I tackled it. It deserves it and precisely because of that it's so interesting. To me one of the most beautiful mountains in Kamnik-Savinja Alps at all. You best judge how demanding it is.
Caution needed everywhere, experience of course very welcome.

Happy trails.nasmeh
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mukica27. 07. 2017 19:05:28
Regina, big bravo! Cold Mountain is really a mountain that leaves a marknasmeh
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lepenatka27. 07. 2017 22:04:57
Thanks, Martina.
That was actually two years ago. Gotta do it from the other direction, from Matkov kot.nasmeh
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Trobec27. 07. 2017 23:59:20
I really like Cold Mountain. But you need to know it's not overly secured with iron. For someone who feels more comfortable if it's (self-)protected, Cold Mountain just isn't the best goal yet. Everyone knows that about themselves. Usually feelings and confidence come with mileage.
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mukica30. 07. 2017 07:05:30
Yesterday's visit to Cold Mountain ..climbing through Hudi prask and then a bit above Latvica along the marked path to the summit, a bit again on our own. Above Okrešelj fog accompanied us to the top, so just because of it I didn't dare the ridge to the top, when we reached the top it opened up... fairy-tale and enjoyable was the sitting and viewing... descent along the marked path to Okrešelj and into the valley. Quite a few visitors, especially a crowd at the hutnasmeh
it starts to accumulate and with every meter it got a bit thicker1
this time we both entered here2
scrambling in Hudi prasek3
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then over the scree5
a bit of everything6
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some view ...as far as it was visible8
after exiting Hudi prasek along the marked and secured path to the summit9
then again a little our own way10
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Mrzla gora 2203m12
brought us sunshine and views....13
we returned to Okrešelj14
nicely exposed...enjoyment in scrambling15
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it was quite hard to turn back17
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stankoju4. 08. 2017 20:13:02
At 4:30 we start at the beginning of Matkov kot and head to Škaf and further over Latvica to the summit of Cold Mountain via eastern ridge where we arrive after 4 hours. Descent on the same path, path quite crumbly so caution is not superfluous especially on descent.
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Ribar Pablo 12. 08. 2017 14:33:05
Dear friends,

I would ask for information about snow cover, if there is any, on the path to the top of Cold Mountain.

Thank you in advance
Happy in the mountains nasmeh
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A.D.K.12. 08. 2017 16:31:53
No snow. Good luck!
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redbull12. 08. 2017 17:10:12
eek
In about 2 months it might already turn white, probably sooner
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lencka15. 08. 2017 13:22:14
On Sunday my husband and I visited this beautiful mountain.
Start at Ravenska Kočna, via Slovenska to Ledine, then to Jezersko and Savinjsko sedlo into Mrzla dol...then up the hill nasmeh
Views were good, path without special features. Cables, as many as there are, are in good condition.
Rocks on it in abundance...but you can step on the rock, which thank God is not as polished as on our most visited peak...still we met quite a few people. But it was blowing really cold...a gentleman in shorts was hiding behind one rock (he apparently left the long ones in the car because it was hot in the valleyvelik nasmeh)
Slovenska na Ledine1
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towards Savinjsko sedlo4
Branch to the left5
...on the scree path6
passage under the wall7
start secured with wire rope8
narrow ledge9
straight up...10
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happy at the top :)12
group photo... two Austrians also arrived13
back, and basically like that...14
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coffee15. 08. 2017 17:36:38
Today I went to Cold Mountain via Hudi prask, but not the classic route, but via the adjacent left/western gully via traverses to the upper part of Diehl's chute and then traversed to the ridge above Latvica.

You can reach the entry gully via the path leading to the usual route over Hudi prask. The gully is nice, with little loose rock and compact rock. In the section to Lunce the biggest problem is a short jump, otherwise the whole section to the promontory with scree under Detelca allows constant climbing of moderate difficulty. To the promontory you have to fight a bit with scree, from there you need to find a sensible traverse past Detelca to the slopes under the ridge. This part is probably the hardest, especially due to exposure and risk of falling into Diehl's chute. After Detelca the difficulty eases and only finding traverses past dwarf pines, bushes and scree to the ridge remains.

Overall I think this variant is somewhat harder than the classic. However, the jump in the initial part and the traverse from promontory to ridge raise the difficulty a notch more.

I'm attaching a link to pictures with better resolution.
http://imgur.com/a/o1y5I
taken from Kamniško sedlo, marked Lunca and Detelca1
taken from the meadow before the GRS station2
past the GRS station along the path3
past the troughs into the forest and left to the boulder4
from the boulder towards the clearing5
through the scree to ...6
... cairn on the far right7
On the little path8
end of the pathlet, here the gully starts9
Start of the gully10
Towards the jump11
Skok12
top of the jump, somewhat clumsily not much is visible13
continuation along the gullies14
to the wall with Lunca15
from there to the right16
along the passages17
Lunca and Luna18
at the top of the passages19
right towards the scree20
left side, maybe sometime in the future21
at the top of the spur with scree, view towards Turski22
view towards the summit part of the classic23
view towards Detelca, I think the easiest is to go over the steps24
here it might be possible to reach the spur, originally I stuck to the far right25
steps and wide ledge towards Detelca26
view of the ledge27
crossing, here I got a bit lost, narrow and exposed28
continuation of wandering, to the ridge it's possible to go right through the notch or left around the corner over the scree29
view back, spur on the left30
got lost ... ZzZ ... just before the exit31
view back to the location of the previous picture, short descent over scree and across a narrow grassy ledge :S32
left variant with scree33
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