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Slovenian two-thousanders

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lijaneja27. 06. 2026 17:05:46
You've put a lot of effort into the statistics. I took a quick look at my data and immediately realized that we have different criteria. As I've mentioned somewhere before, for me a Slovenian two-thousander is a hill, mountain or elevation that has a certain height and at least on some map also a name. I only looked into the Julian Alps and counted 41 peaks that you don't have on the list, but you accidentally put Dovška mala Kepa and Pungrat on it.
Be well!
Tone
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dprapr27. 06. 2026 20:49:42
Because of different lists it's really hard to say how many there are. But for two I know they have conquered over 400!smile
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DVas29. 06. 2026 10:16:25
I corrected Pungrat and Dovško mala Kepo. Also some other peaks were incorrectly classified. I have now arranged it. Thanks.
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lijaneja29. 06. 2026 21:24:50
No problem. He who works errs. But it's a good idea and you'll encourage many to visit our mountains more. Obviously for the mass of data you needed a lot of time and knowledge. I don't even know if I'd know how to use the thing without 'instructions for use'nasmeh and if the list was expanded to at least 406 I'd get active too. On the net there are quite a few similar mountain motivators, years ago I already 'connected' to some world link where I record all my mountain activities.
https://www.peakbagger.com/climber/climblistc.aspx?cid=32409&__cf_chl_f_tk=qDKBIRjlftP66f4bcXbTx44a0qMQkdBe_lMfAx6Si_k-1782759997-1.0.1.1-.Jr.xYu2M117ccCsxmlR1RnZlmTbuNLJNXhK_eEs4.0
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Trobec30. 06. 2026 20:32:31
This list as I see it is made according to M and M. Why they chose exactly these peaks at the start is a question for them nasmeh But as far as I see most of those who take on the 2000ers challenge work according to their list. There is also an expanded one and Tone, I agree that on this basic list quite a few are still missing. But there are also peaks on it that really aren't. Immediately Teme por Rjavino comes to mind for example. It actually doesn't even have 2m relative height (or prominence) which by no criterion can be a peak. But yeah, until we get some "official" list, e.g. from the Geodetic Administration, it will always be a matter of debate how many 2000ers we have.
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dprapr1. 07. 2026 14:46:31
Of course they work according to their list because it has the most objective approach descriptions! All other descriptions are more for reading during the tour.nasmeh
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lijaneja1. 07. 2026 17:48:46
You mean Skodlco 1919 near the Lopučnica pasture on Komna?
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lijaneja1. 07. 2026 21:52:24
Well, every spring they have young.nasmeh
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DVas2. 07. 2026 08:14:50
I started from the list that is on Wikipedia. The mentioned list I think is based on the list from the mountain journal, turbo posted the link. I'm attaching screenshots.
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Trobec2. 07. 2026 15:59:08
Well there really are some differences compared to the M and M list. I didn't go through the whole list but what immediately caught my eye is that Adam and Eva are listed here as one peak.
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Hammond2. 07. 2026 17:32:03
Zapotoški vrh is not 2k.
Central pillar, Sphinx - mountaineering names of subdivisions, not a peak. There are countless pillars in this sense.
Tired Tower is nothing more than a landmark.
Which part of BG is Lanterna?
And those Mangrt ones are also foreign to me: Rob above Zagače, Remšendolska škrbina, Rdeča skala, Strmi nos, Huda škrbina.
Arguments?
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lijaneja3. 07. 2026 10:34:00
Škrbine are škrbine, not 'štrline'.nasmeh
The following could easily be added to the list with a clear conscience: Vrh rokavskega grebena, Mali Jalovec, Zahodni vrh Kanjavca, Triglavski Vogel, Zahodni Zvonik, Zahodni vrh Planje, Oltarček, Južni vrh Vršakov, Prestreljeniški stolp, Vrh hude Škrbine, Plemenice, Gornja Kopica, Lopa, Veliki stolp Kanceljnov,.....
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Hammond3. 07. 2026 12:44:21
I agree regarding the saddles.
Sveti trije Rokavi dominate, the other peaks somehow don't assert themselves.
Kanjavec certainly has two summits.
Is Triglavski Vogel marked anywhere as a peak or is it just an area in the shadow of Mali Triglav between Planika and Kredarica?
Zvonik certainly has two, the western one is even more accessible.
If you go over the Kanceljnov ridge, you solve a lot. velik nasmeh
The little altar has established itself more as a specialty and less as a peak.
For Kopice, no one knows exactly which is which.
Lopa near Šite is just an alpinistic name for the pre-summit of the mentioned mountain.
Eh, one big cross with these peaks. velik nasmeh
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Trobec3. 07. 2026 13:55:49
Not to mention the multitude of Glavs on Kaninski podi. And sometimes the summit isn't even placed on the highest point, but on a lower one, some 50m as the crow flies from the higher point, which is unnamed cool
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lijaneja3. 07. 2026 17:43:25
True. According to my records Kanin is an eight-headed dragon. Vršič has exactly that many. I hope I live to see the cable car so I can do them....mežikanje
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Hammond3. 07. 2026 21:13:03
Everything there is head-shaped and peaked. velik nasmeh
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Trobec3. 07. 2026 22:46:15
Eh Tone...well it's a nice walk from the valley...just to stretch the legs zadrega
Well yeah...maybe I've had enough of Kanin for this year...velik nasmeh
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Loerst3. 07. 2026 23:12:45
Ah, I only just noticed this topic that is very dear to me. smile

Praise to DVas for the website and the effort put in! As you yourself mentioned, there is a problem because there is no definition of what a peak is. If you tell me that, I will tell you how many peaks there are.

Above all, the definition should be unambiguous, that is, completely clear, verifiable and not arbitrary. By far the most commonly used criterion is prominence (height above the saddle). Which value is the right one is a matter of agreement (or personal judgment), but if we take as a criterion a prominence of at least 30 m (probably the minimum) we have 301 two-thousanders in Slovenia (28 in the Karavanks, 37 in KSA, 236 in the Julian Alps). Of course, you can also set a different criterion.

I would also kindly warn you about the input data regarding height. I believe you started from what is publicly available, but there are many errors on public maps (especially on OpenTopo) and they are often quite significant. Sometimes it's simply a measurement error (e.g. Veliki Oltar, which is listed everywhere as 2621 m, but is actually 2628.45 m), sometimes the highest point was not measured, often there are also points that by no criterion are peaks or are not two-thousanders (typically Toplar with 1998.85 m). Some also do not have a peak in Slovenia (e.g. Velika glava on Peca), or the peak is only a meter outside the border (e.g. Ostrv 2103 m, next to Košutnikov turn or Grad 2016 (and not 2008, as on the maps, next to Vrtača) - I counted them anyway).

There are of course also two-thousanders that exist in nature but are not on maps and consequently not on lists - e.g. Point 2040 with prominence 35 m, south of Kalški greben.

If you want completely accurate data, you will have to use Lidar data. These are publicly available through the GURS portal, but you will need some GIS program and a bit of knowledge to use it. Lidar has a standard error of +- 15 cm and is the best we have at the moment (or that even exists).

And no, I don't have a list made. For years I've been saying that I'll do it one day, but I don't get around to it. But so that it doesn't remain just words, below is a graphical representation of the mentioned 301 points (criterion - above 2000 m, above 30 m prominence, in Slovenia + a few m tolerance ).
Slovenian two-thousanders with prominence 30 m - Julian Alps1
Slovenian two-thousanders with prominence 30 m - KSA2
Slovenian two-thousanders with prominence 30 m - Karawanks (missing Kordeževa glava and Končnikov vrh on Peca)3
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Trobec3. 07. 2026 23:14:07
An acquaintance explained to me that his acquaintance (I know, it sounds like "Chinese whispers"big grin) played a bit with LIDAR images and programming and wrote a script that pulls out all points above 2000m from lidar with the desired relative height of the peak.
In principle, the criterion used in these lists is a relative peak height of 30m, but in reality this is not quite true in any list known to me. And when the criteria are lowered, the number of such points increases significantly. I don't remember the exact number now, but I think at 10m there are already around 4000. Of course, a "manual" adjustment would then be needed, because in quite a few cases it's for example a large boulder, sometimes also a mountain hut. But more for a sense of how much "reserve" is still in the lists big grin
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Loerst3. 07. 2026 23:31:37
@Trobec according to lidar there are 896 points on the relief with prominence +10 m and above 2000 m above sea level.

If elevation is not a criterion, there are 27587 - that is actually the number of all bumps across Slovenia.

High time I went to sleep. smile
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