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| esedic3. 10. 2007 12:07:47 |
On Saturday I'd go with my girlfriend to Velk'vrh (not sure yet if from Matizovca or from Šija). Does anyone know what the conditions towards the summit are like?
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| Tadej3. 10. 2007 12:12:35 |
The path is completely dry.
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| Guest4. 10. 2007 12:16:54 |
and doesn't this belong under Karavanke? 
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| fox22. 10. 2007 22:20:23 |
It probably belongs somewhere else too...
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| Guest23. 10. 2007 14:37:47 |
seal07, how is the orientation on the path in these conditions? I mean if you don't know the path by heart...
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| jurs23. 10. 2007 17:19:53 |
If you don't know the path by heart, it's better to take along someone who knows it and who has been to the summit in winter conditions! Best regards.
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| Guest23. 10. 2007 19:25:43 |
Guest asking about orientation: have you not even been to Veliki vrh yet, or are you worried about orientation in snowy conditions? From my experience there's a trodden track in winter from Matizovca to Kofce (but check first how cleared the road to Matizovca is). From Kofce to Veliki vrh you just follow the trampled path. So in my opinion winter orientation is easier, especially on such a popular peak like Veliki vrh. Of course you need to know winter hiking hazards and have proper gear, and know to turn back if the path is icy, visibility poor etc... good luck!
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| Guest23. 10. 2007 19:43:38 |
From the hut at Kofce you have Veliki vrh right ahead to the summit. If you've already visited it and know where the peak is, no orientation issues. Very good if someone before you makes the gaz and saves you some strength. 
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| Guest23. 10. 2007 21:42:16 |
Do you think you really have to drive to Matizovca? If someone walks half an hour longer, it won't hurt anyone! 
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| seal0724. 10. 2007 16:57:49 |
Guest asking me about orientation in post 5. Winter ascents are something completely different than in summer pleasant conditions. Classic marked trails are out, instead ascend where it's safest. That means good knowledge of winter mountaineering. I won't go into details now because it requires mastering quite a few skills. There's plenty of literature on the topic, best is to join an alpinist section. I'm currently a junior trainee and don't know much yet.
I hadn't been to Veliki vrh before. We were first that day so no gaz yet. Low cloudiness visibility about 15 meters, drifting snow with moderate wind. Slopes had about 30 cm fresh powder. We assessed no major avalanche risk so we climbed up the trail as far as it was visible. Otherwise we'd have gone along the ridge. But the trail 200 m below summit vanished under windpacked snow and we seriously considered turning back. After thinking and with ice axes ready we continued along the ridge to the top. On descent late we met 4 enthusiasts pushing up our gaz to the summit, hope they had lamps with them
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| Guest30. 10. 2007 07:47:12 |
On sunny weekends the path is well trodden even in winter. It's good to have ice axe and crampons with you as the peak is often icy.
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| Guest30. 10. 2007 22:11:11 |
Crampons and ice axe belong to mandatory gear in the backpack for winter tours, whether you need them or not. Otherwise some smart alecks always get found somewhere without anything... 
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| Guest2. 11. 2007 07:48:16 |
Has anyone been to Veliki vrh these days? What are the conditions, is it suitable for a 9-year-old child?
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| Guest2. 11. 2007 18:53:13 |
9-year-old child should stay home and watch how the last leaves fall from the trees.
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| Guest2. 11. 2007 19:29:26 |
Veliki vrh in dry and nice weather is a suitable goal for a 9-year-old. I think also in favorable winter conditions (unfrozen track), if used to hills and has reliable escort. For current conditions call Dom na Kofcah:
Manager Peter Vogelnik
Hut phone 041/234-638
E-mail peter-vogelnik@epošta.si
Status OSNP
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| Guest7. 11. 2007 09:00:23 |
Don't worry about 4 eager beavers. We visit Veliki Vrh at full moon, also on nice nights, with a light and properly equipped. And we make a track so it's a track, not the whole criss-cross trodden path.
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| Guest7. 11. 2007 10:05:37 |
You said that well about the 9-year-old child, Franc.
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| Guest1. 12. 2007 11:10:30 |
I'm wondering how the path to Veliki Vrh in Košuta is. How much snow???
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| Guest1. 12. 2007 20:50:41 |
Today I went to Košutnikov turn and there wasn't really much snow, so I think there's not much towards Veliki Vrh either.
Regards
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