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Viharnik's attic

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SamoK4. 11. 2015 10:31:04
Hey, guys, get a room!zavijanje z očmi
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grega_z_brega4. 11. 2015 12:54:46
What do you need a room for if you have an attic :P
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viharnik4. 11. 2015 13:19:43
Look, Brane. Maybe for you the term is šolonga, for me it's šolnga. Secondly, any foil that lets through even just 1% is not a vapor barrier but still vapor permeable, like Tyvek. Thirdly, all my procedures on the attic are done correctly and quite precise, compared to you, where practically everything is machine-made, from floors, walls, plasters, house measurements etc. You just fitted some expensive blinds, windows, parquets, wiring, then boast big time about what you did. Compared to me alone, quite littlezadrega.
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lizika4. 11. 2015 14:12:05
@viharnik
tlelele I'm giving you plenty so you do it all by hand eek
it might be that it's even better than with a machinezavijanje z očmi
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Branee4. 11. 2015 17:03:32
No point explaining, I've given up..
Let there be peace with you velik nasmeh
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lino4. 11. 2015 17:29:08
Branee, it's not that far yet. Hope dies last.
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capraibex4. 11. 2015 18:19:19
Viharnik could now slowly stop with his own attic and self-praise. Because we're here exclusively for useful topics related to mountains.
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VanSims4. 11. 2015 19:59:34
It's interesting how @lizika knows everything so she can criticize everything. In mountaineering there's no match for her and she surpasses everyone from e.g. Zlodej to the greatest Slovenian alpinists. Now we've learned she also knows construction among other things.

She could go into politics. They really know everything. For example, first defense, then environmental, then foreign minister, if I name just one example...

Oh, and she has a monopoly on what can and can't be written on this portal...

She's popular too, as they (ten acc. keep rules open!!!) throw pluses at her.
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jprim5. 11. 2015 10:26:09
@ Moderator

Yes, years ago I advocated for the quality of this forum, now I notice the moderator forgets that he used to delete such silly discussions.
It would be best to delete this thread as it has neither head nor tail.
LP!
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Pankrt5. 11. 2015 10:49:07
If nobody in life gives a fuck about you 5%, you start raping others on the forum... oh viharnik...mežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanjemežikanje
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grega_z_brega5. 11. 2015 12:59:06
There has to be one topic for messing around too nasmeh
picture is symbolic :P1
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viharnik5. 11. 2015 16:48:40
No, like this, so we don't talk about attics in vain, I have reliable information (of course, if someone follows the same path in attic building, because for dumb heads exploiting the forum, no) from first hand.
I asked Knauf's main technical advisor in Ljubljana about hangers, where and which ones are used.
He said that hangers are of several types and made in multiple types so that they can be selectively used, depending on the type of attic, each specific on its own and each one needs individual attention and adaptation to the best way of building, there are no written rules here, some healthy farmer sense - own judgement is needed. He said that on roof slope constructions both lateral anchor hangers and also fully equal in function and load the "controversial" direct hanger are used. Intermediate distances of profiles for both are installed from 40 to 50 cm, difference between German and EU general norms. Deviation occurs due to installation of different thickness of gypsum boards and coatings. But he says that for 1.2 cm thick standard gypsum board after installation we can stick to up to 50 cm spacing, if less, also good. A very important phase in attic building is the final vapour-impermeable foil e.g. Knauf LDS 100 or 1% permeable (Tyvek)...?, so that joints are really well sealed with quality bandage tape and additionally ends that hang into the interior with Knauf glue. For Tyvek, which lets through 1%, he says it is just a fashion hype, otherwise good companies that promote their novelty, that living in the attic is healthier and that it drains possible elevated high moisture in living spaces. With this the product is nothing else but more expensive, but from insulation perspective and durability it has no advantages, rather disadvantages, as he says. The inner insulation space between foils must therefore be fully vapour-permeable from the side of living spaces, which allows the insulation to remain in its original dry state and thus perform its function. Conversely, any moisture causes first condensate, then water droplets appear that soak the insulation, also the rafters around, which consequently reduces the insulation power and the lifespan of the insulation itself, damn. Any moisture anywhere in building guidelines is death for living and the building material itself.
Regarding hangers it is really a whole circus, since even the said building material sellers say twice differently. Finally also at mine, when I asked them again zavijanje z očmi. For wall-hanging hanger on a rod, with which a lower level ceiling with insulation is made, you can't miss.
The technical advisor, who also goes to the mountains, told me quite a few things that no one will tell us consumers, neither companies that produce material nor shops that sell material. Everyone just wants to achieve their goals in the shortest and easiest way, the buyer is ultimately left to either an experienced top master who over the years knows how the installed material behaves and functions or to trust in some company at own discretion, which goes: May we live and see velik nasmeh.
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gorolazka5. 11. 2015 17:10:43
Very useful thing for hillwalkers. Besides hillwalking we all build attics.
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lino5. 11. 2015 17:27:19
Viharnik, many thanks for such comprehensive and precise explanation. Nobody explains it so vividly in the store. All critics and doubters of your build will be left with mouths open. Thanks!
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gorolazka5. 11. 2015 17:32:05
Lino and surely these infos will be very useful to you. Like to me. Who lives in a block and in no way plans to build attic ever. Yeah viharnik is real hribi.net moderator. I adore him. Thinking to open cosmetics forum. So women have something on hribi.net too. Just afraid only viharnik typing there too.
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miri5. 11. 2015 18:04:10
@viharnik, you'll get the true value of the foil when some young lady visits you and shows you the heavens.
You'll see where you'll count the moisture drops.velik nasmeh
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korl5. 11. 2015 18:07:01
viharnik is king; if he were a seller, I'd probably buy even used toilet paper from him. Why the man didn't become a seller is a question for I-don't-know-which gods. He could be a billionaire if they had heard him.
But he anyway wouldn't want it, no way! Explain to us, viharnik, why we live hand to mouth - you, unlike us, mouth to hand???
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Pankrt5. 11. 2015 18:42:50
velik nasmeh
Viharnik and Lino1
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tinky5. 11. 2015 19:51:04
For this model, an honest purchase really slips.
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lino5. 11. 2015 20:37:08
Pankrt, solidarity and good will must be there too. Nobody is without fault. Lp!
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