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Vrtača via Mala Glava

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korl25. 08. 2018 19:17:11
@jbs - you recommend reporting to the police.

Have the police ever caught anyone marking like that? Did they send a van into the mountains?

Or is the point just in reporting and then we're all happy because we did what we could?
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pohodnik1125. 08. 2018 20:13:50
I won't add fuel to the fire... I think someone just marked the path so they won't forget it next time... but it's worth thinking for all such that insurance doesn't cover "damage" in case of accident on unmarked paths... so go ahead wherever you want... mother nature will charge you the toll...
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djimuzl25. 08. 2018 23:58:55
They know it's not right, but they do it because it suits them and they care little for others - they don't realize that in the long run they harm themselves too... We see such behavior everywhere, not just in the mountains..
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mukica26. 08. 2018 07:35:26
Ninđa @marks or signs - circles and lines, there are many, all the way to the top, maybe only at the very beginning by the trig point there are none... I was surprised by this colorful mess jezen
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geppo26. 08. 2018 08:22:27
Such kinds of "marking" also appear in KSA. When I came across such a way of path marking, which had been untouched for years, I was quite shocked.
Then I partly blamed myself, because sometimes I posted photos when wandering here. But I was most surprised when I unofficially learned from a local that the president of the local PD did such mess.zmeden
regards
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dprapr26. 08. 2018 10:03:43
President of the local PD? You can't believe it.

Maybe "his" guides need a "marked" path to lead on "pathless terrain".zavijanje z očmi
Finally I'll believe what some have been saying all along, that pathless routes shouldn't be published online.
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geppo26. 08. 2018 12:14:07
Drago, I've been thinking about this for a while already...zavijanje z očmi
lp
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UB7726. 08. 2018 12:49:26
Well, it is logical after all if you publish your "own" pathless routes on the net, you'll attract repeaters. And they'll mark the path for next time each in their own way, some with cairns, others with colorful smearing. I keep every unvisited little path I discover to myself.nasmeh
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jbs26. 08. 2018 13:35:22
Mr. Stritar and Mr. Habjan responded nicely a few years ago regarding Kalška gora (in the comments of this article: Illegal marking) to direct accusations against them regarding popularizing pathless routes with their guidebooks. To summarize: Records of pathless routes are published to show others the beauties of these places too. If it motivates someone for pathless exploration, there's nothing wrong with that, as no one can egoistically own our country. That someone marks a pathless route like this is a matter of behavior or culture and moreover illegal. We can perhaps "blame" the records of pathless routes for them being more trodden, but not for the smearing on them. That's due to lack of upbringing.
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robter26. 08. 2018 13:42:37
Fak. But if you're constipated and can't "shit", do you call the police or rather go to the doctor. What criminal act was committed if someone smeared a few rocks.
Before such bickering, better read the Hiking Trails Act and whose authority is supervision over it.
The response of inspection services is known in advance, namely that in this case it's not a hiking trail since it's not marked anywhere, but pathless terrain. No marking section takes care of such paths (pathless), so it's in no one's care and no one should take offense.
Except the landowner. The owner can also prohibit or physically block passage through the land. etc etc
lp Robert Ternik

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anč26. 08. 2018 16:33:23
But then cairns shouldn't be built either? My opinion is that because of a few "smears" on rocks there won't be any more hikers on this path than before. Really pointless to get so upset.
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dprapr26. 08. 2018 18:10:00
Yes, if it's pointless to get upset, then next time we'll go "mark" on anč's.velik nasmeh
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Becar26. 08. 2018 19:21:28
Ma'am, can we make a marking on your cherry tree?

Yes, you can; I just don't know if I'll always be home.
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mirank26. 08. 2018 19:35:35
Yes that would be a good idea; a couple of markings on the house corners and a few more on the fence and on the fruit treeszavijanje z očmi But it seems to me there wouldn't be anywhere to draw...
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Ninđa26. 08. 2018 19:51:02
@becar https://www.pzs.si/forum-zgodovina.php?pid=641

"We'd also mark your cherry tree if you don't mind." The little lady sharply: "Well, if you must, go ahead, just you should know that I won't always be home!"

velik nasmeh

Regards, Nino
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Kili0226. 08. 2018 22:58:00
PD Tržič is outraged by the act, our guides don't need markings, definitely this matter needs to be cleaned up, and if the one who did this is reading, I tell him to stay in the valley and never come to the mountains again, not to our parts nor anywhere else.
Fork.1
Repaired.2
Unfortunately the others still remain.3
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franca27. 08. 2018 11:00:15
What remains of the pathless route if you mark it? Isn't the charm exactly in finding the passages yourself (at least a little, many pathless routes have turned into unmarked paths), getting a bit lost and finding again...
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turbo27. 08. 2018 11:32:27
Searches are an important part of my paths to the mountains. Searching for paths, new summits, ultimately for oneself too. That's why I love the lines from Pavček's "When you walk, always go to the end", which at the end say: "But if you don't get there the first time nor the second to the right shelter and true mettle, try again and again and again".

The goal does not justify the means, spraying is mildly put a lack of tact. Those who do it are certainly not of true mettle.
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tinky26. 09. 2018 16:56:02
Today to Vrtača via Mala Glava. Down the marked path. The path was nicely followable in such weather as today. Started at 6am and it was quite cold, later pleasant for walking. Some wind on the ridge didn't bother either. On Zelenica something always happens. The manager showed me the climbing wall in the upper cable car station building. That spraying on the rocks is nicely cleaned.
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I didn't need the headlamp at all2
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Stol and Vrtača are already painted4
but the moon doesn't want to5
she got a bit stuck6
she even went to check Srednji vrh7
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Zelenjak9
Zelenjak and Palec10
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a little more13
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On the summit15
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Ovčji vrh17
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Srednji vrh23
On Može24
it's always lively at Zelenica25
at the upper cable car station26
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still coming29
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Vrtača hut31
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down here33
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Ninđa26. 09. 2018 20:16:50
@tinky congratulations and thanks for the excellent news. May the pathless routes (especially dear to my heart) remain pathless.
Best, Nino
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