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Vrtaško Sleme

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Kafetarca12. 11. 2022 18:53:12
Start in Mojstrana, via Vrtaška planina on the old path to Vrtaški vrh, from there to Votlo sleme and to Vrtaško sleme. Path without peculiarities, no snow. The unmarked path to Vrtaški vrh I found quite easily, which surprised me as I usually get lost quickly... Animals have trodden certain parts nicely, so the paths are clearly visible.
Return via Vrtaška planina towards Črlovec. The path is very tricky in some parts due to leaves, high chance of slipping and quickly ending up in the valley. Also harder to follow in places, I missed a junction and went towards upper Rovt... As the path became less trodden, I realized I messed up and had to go back to the right junction. At the bridge over the stream below I decided not to go to Črlovec but headed back to Mojstrana. On the map I saw two forest paths marked - chose the upper one, big mistake as it's a narrow forest trail full of leaves and roots directly above high cliffs. Struggled and sweated over nasty sections for a while, alarms in my head, until a flatter spot. Ahead the same with cliffs, so after map check went straight down through the forest to the lower path which soon reached the road.
A bit of an adrenaline rush, nice trip.
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Jusk12. 11. 2022 20:27:10
That trail above the cliffs is a bit nasty at times yeahnasmeh otherwise if you continued on that path the precipices end a bit further, then nice trail ahead (at least used to be), somewhere between Ros and Mojstrana you reach the road. But last year lots of fallen trees across that path. Don't know how it is now, haven't been there this year. Lp
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Kafetarca12. 11. 2022 21:09:59
I'm a bit sorry as it looked good to explore but sixth sense said get away quick to safety if I want to get home alone without rescuers. nasmeh Maybe sometime when there are fewer leaves on the path.

What is this Ros you mentioned?
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Jusk13. 11. 2022 11:06:13
A bit further from end of Mojstrana towards Peričnik, where some houses and parking and traffic counter, that end called at Ros
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nivo16. 01. 2023 15:22:19
Hello,
Does anyone know if the path to Sleme from Mojstrana is trodden?
Or. How much snow there at all?
Gladly take info on winter ascent difficulty with appropriate gear (ice axe and crampons). From pics conclude it's an easier hiking path with exposed slip sections.
Thanks for reply.
Lp.
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n3jc9. 01. 2023 20:41:12
At Fabrka parking, it's cheaper with contactless card at the meter (5 EUR full day) than EasyPark, which takes some margin (5.75 with PayPal). The latter has a good extension option.

On Saturday no particularly tough conditions, some snow in upper part (occasional knee sinks) and more with today's precipitation.

Orientation from Vrtaška planina up is demanding in deep snow, advise against ungroomed terrain if first time. Wrong way to Vrtaški vrh leads to scree/juniper under snow and deep sink. Path to Njivice advised against due to deep snow avalanche risk.
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Trobec3. 04. 2023 00:59:50
How to go longest possible to Vrtaško Sleme: circular from below past Črlovec down marked zadrega
Conditions so-so. Snow rotten, deep sinking slowed progress. Good it starts only at 1500m. Last part near summit firmer base with less sinking. Weather much better than forecast.

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n3jc3. 04. 2023 07:21:37
Your ascent roughly second shortest among seven different paths (+variants) to Vrtaško Sleme I've done. So not longest even including road walk.nasmeh
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Trobec3. 04. 2023 10:21:11
Of course, longer variants exist, as well as shorter ones. Quite more than 1. For starters - all 3 described on hribi.net if up and down same.nasmeh
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PUHIPUHI6. 04. 2024 07:38:20
Is path to Vrtaško Sleme already snow-free? What are the conditions?
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PUHIPUHI6. 04. 2024 07:38:24
Is the path to Vrta Ridge already dry? What are the conditions?
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capraibex11. 04. 2024 15:38:20
Does anyone know about Vrta Ridge, what are the conditions? Thanks and safe steps.
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skala12323. 09. 2024 13:50:46
Some Saturday snapshots from the cold and windy Vrta Ridge.

Nice mountaineering greetings.
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j.9. 11. 2024 23:59:24
Yesterday (Friday, 08.11.2024) to the summit via Smrajko up the western side of the valley and down the eastern.

Morning caught me a bit further from Podkuž, where a German trucker's motorhome occupied almost half of the about five parking spots. Ice accompanied me along the bike path to the top of the clearing at Podkuža, where I turned into the forest slightly left until I stumbled upon cairns of a barely visible hunter's path.

At the saddle, a flagged path branches right, crossing towards Lešnik's gully and beyond to the salt lick and maybe further, where I stopped being curious, returned and continued transversely left from the saddle. Lack of time due to this excursion soured my evening. After about 150 meters, an excellent hunter's path branches right and up (somehow reminds me of Martinj path), leading over a rocky head into the forest below Smrajko and on to the hunter's hut.

As far as I could trace, the shepherd's crossing towards the Ridge goes through the area of eastern screes of the Cijanica valley below Vrtaški vrh. I've been there, but didn't fancy grinding my knees on scree. So I headed into moderately steep forest on the western part of the valley. It went better than on rocky debris, continued left into wet, grassy gully from which after about 100m elevation I exited left again. From here to the rocky barrier it's about 250m of digestible vegetated scree, topped towards the top by deposits of somewhat larger rocks. In between, among open rocky clearings, some short dwarf pine passages. Wildlife prepared a friendly path under the wall, along which under steep slopes closing this part of the valley I crossed to its eastern edge. There upwards again some path with lots of animal tracks and no human, quite comfortably leading over the barrier (total about 70m elevation) and then flattening.

Below the walls of Vrtaški vrh and Urlež I continued about half a km towards the right. The path here partly on screes, partly on grassy slopes was quite visible, locally frozen due to ice. The primeval dwarf pine forest at the end surprised me a bit, under branches animal tracks, no other signs of a path. But I found my way somehow left and soon hit the (poorly) marked path to Vrta Ridge. The sun, which I hadn't had all the way, pleasantly warmed me, above me a herd of about 50 chamois (looked strong and healthy) grazed merrily and moved towards Vrata about as fast as I puffed upwards.

Views from the Ridge were of course magnificent, just a bit foggy. And completely solitary.

Descended the same way, first challenge was of course returning through the dwarf pines, but I was lucky. After the barrier I descended to the middle of the valley and slowly continued on rocky slide towards the east side. Some short passages through dwarf pines no problem, a bit more tricky was the first narrow rocky steep scree that gave no footing, so I held firmly to the dwarf pines. As observed on ascent from the other side of the valley, this part could perhaps be avoided a bit left over some narrow clearing in dwarf pines (photo).

Continuation mostly scree to about 1400m asl, where dwarf pines stretch almost the full width of the valley. Passage is just meters from its far right edge, tens of meters down from the passage sharp eye spots a cairn then another pointing through short dwarf pine barrier to narrow scree.

Let me say that the whole way from the hunter's hut onwards except the two described cairns above I saw no sign, say no cut branch hinting a passage, a few meters below them on two trees there are two blue marks showing the path out of the valley by the other variant.

On the scree that at times almost disappears then widens again I went down until I spotted a white birch on the right, about 20m below it the salt lick, next to it poorly visible path coming right from rocky head, from the other side of which the hunter's path leads. Followed the cairn and along animal tracks right around the rock until in hard darkness a small but shining white cairn directed me to transverse path and past the branch for hunter's path to the saddle with split to Lešnikov gully and salt lick. Lower down the path completely disappears, I also got lost in some huge grass interwoven with blackberries and tripping holes in the ground, but finally found the exit clearing and road. Next time at the start of the path I'll be less curious.

Conditions were of course dry, season-appropriate and changed regardless of elevation. First slip in the morning on the bridge over Sava, once or twice higher up when carelessly jumping rock to rock, then suddenly and who knows why one iced over.
Parking lot at Podkuža.1
Morning on the frozen entrance clearing at Podkuža.2
The path / track fades a bit.3
The first cairn cheered me up.4
Saddle where a well-cairned path branches right to Lešnikov graben.5
Quite worn path to the right.6
Across Lešnikov graben and on to the woodshed. I didn't explore further.7
Trip into Lešnikov graben.8
The hunting path over the rocky head is really nicely routed.9
Supported hunting cabin below Smrajko.10
Above the wet gully, quite decent areas with rocky deposits begin.11
The wildlife has provided friendly passages under the rock face.12
View back to the eastern (descent) part of the Cijanice dell. Somehow I went above the scree.13
The track leads into the scree.14
What horrors, there's no orientation apart from that.15
One part of a large chamois herd of at least 50 heads.16
Vrtaško Sleme.17
Kukova špica with a picturesque and challenging ridge before it.18
Dobrač and Hochalmspitze.19
Shaggy ridge below Vrtaško Sleme. Who knows its name...20
View back towards Cijanice.21
The views were beautiful, but slightly misty.22
Frozen path in the upper section.23
Upper part of the scree.24
Searching for passages through the scree towards the lower scree area.25
Not very inviting.26
A while downhill, then right through the scree to the next spur.27
Two cairns point to the scree tongue leading to the valley.28
Blue marker on the tree a little below the cairns.29
White birch at about 1200 meters. 20 meters after it is the salt lick.30
Below the salt lick a poorly visible path.31
An old bridge structure over the Sava for cyclists and pedestrians that I like.32
Trail.33
The steep narrow scree field could perhaps be bypassed through the bushes on the left.34
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Kafetarca10. 11. 2024 04:34:25
Awesome hike!
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j.11. 11. 2024 19:24:27
Thanks Kafetarca! The break was unforgettable for me too!
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Tomco15. 12. 2024 19:47:41
Sharing a couple of snapshots from today's hike to Vrta Ridge.

This was my first ascent to the Ridge. Up and down the classic from Mojstrana.

Path without peculiarities. Snow starts accumulating already on the path below Vrtaška planina, depending on exposure and shade. With altitude more and more, but generally not much and walkable without issues.

Real winter starts from ca. 1750 m, from the clearing below Vrtaški vrh. From there snow is somewhat more substantial. Wind also really blew on that clearing. Track all the way, though towards summit more modest. We put on gaiters somewhere below Urlež. To the summit possible without winter gear. One gentleman was with us on summit at the same time and came up normally without. Snow generally still unconsolidated and soft. Towards top harder and occasionally crusted. We still put on crampons for the final ascent part, as it went much easier and saved quite some energy. Otherwise would have kicked a lot to the top. Not critical for safety though. Personally I'd rate crampons recommendable under current conditions.

On summit we were lucky - calm. On way back wind picked up again on the ridge at one spot.

Met two who came up from north side pathless. Didn't remember if from Beli potok or over Smrajko, anyway hats off. Surely did some serious postholing.

What especially pleases me, this was first proper winter ascent for my better half. Now joint stepping up... nasmeh

Bottom line great day. "Severe" frost was forecast, but not quite. Hike still a bit more demanding than expected.

P.S. That climb from Mojstrana to Vrtaška planina without poles I don't know if I'd manage velik nasmeh. Down also not too pleasant...
For instagram :P1
Panorama of Vrata from the viewpoint on the path.2
Soon it will be necessary to put gaiters on.3
We2. Joy at the summit.4
Towards Lj parish... Nice to be up here!5
Another one with Očak in the background.6
Descent.7
From the viewpoint towards Gorenjska.8
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n3jc15. 12. 2024 20:05:42
How much do you have to pay for parking down there now?
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Tomco15. 12. 2024 20:16:32
Just under 7€ for 7 and a half hours… :-/

Attention - at the mountaineering museum the rate is even more expensive (I went to check)…
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rensul15. 12. 2024 20:36:03
n3jc- Parking 0.80€/h or 10€/day. Applies to Fabrka parking, down at trail start.
Tomco- Nice conditions description, good pics, the group one stands out😜On 6. caught the gent too🤣. Re path to Vrtaška planina, I wrote once somewhere-pure knee-grinder. Safe paths on your joint tours.
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