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Apolonija30. 06. 2015 09:08:58
Velkavrh, yes really, they can hybridize, (then whites should also grow there), or something changes in genetic material due to various factors.

Yours has exactly such flower, not leaves like gentiana scabra which grows in Japan.


https://www.google.si/search?q=gentiana+scabra&biw=1280&bih=939&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Mz-SVYXEDMbbUdOft5AN&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgrc=kKffAkWxdmF9dM%3A
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Apolonija30. 06. 2015 09:30:30
Zlatica, I already threw a look yesterday-))), but can't confirm for sure. "Bohinjci" would know that. It could be.
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velkavrh30. 06. 2015 14:11:20
Zlatica nos. 56 to 58 is Austrian speedwell, which we currently find everywhere; no. 50 is tufted bellflower. A colleague from Srednja vas in Bohinj tells me that on Komna there blooms a white large gentian similar to Clusius's. This year it will probably already be too late for searching. I'll try next year. This year I'll search around planina Govnač for some hybrid of yellow and Pannonian gentian. Apparently, it bloomed when brought also to Julijana. Before planina Govnač blooms also greater burnet-saxifrage (Pimpinella major) and common rhapontica (Stemmacantha rhapontica), around the hut Pod Bogatinom wild doronicum senecio (Senecio doronicum).
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Apolonija30. 06. 2015 18:32:27
Velkavrh, to convince you that no. 50 is not tufted bellflower. Have you already seen such basal leaves on any of them, if nothing else? Look at the seventh picture from the top down:

http://www.botanische-spaziergaenge.at/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2242


By what do you judge that it's speedwell? By the leaflets? It seems to me Peter S. told you once too that you didn't photo popkoresa and that he himself had "trouble" with it. Do I remember right?nasmeh

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peter230. 06. 2015 19:35:45
56 to 58 is Austrian speedwell.
50 is of course mountain rockjasmine not tufted bellflower.
74 not Hacquet's hawkweed. That one is pointier from youth: Hacquet's hawkweed
Most likely bud of dentate knapweed: Dentate knapweed
69 Noric clover
48 could be greater burnet-saxifrage but leaves not visible
49 common valerian
73 yellow false hellebore doesn't exist. This is Lobel's green false hellebore
29 Austrian auricula also marked on botanical path

Best, Polona from Peter nasmeh
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zlatica30. 06. 2015 20:35:51
Apolonija, Velkavrh thanks to both for your investigations, peter2 especially to you because you dispelled doubts and solved our puzzles this time. I thought you were that peter who makes such good photos, I've viewed and admired them many times. Now with the comparison photo for knapweed things fit what I saw in field, especially buds make you think yellow hawkweed less likely because bud bases were black-white, though great similarity with leaves. Apolonija, your page you attached above for bellflower revealed many other beauties I'll view more.
Yes peter one more thing. For flower under 48 that could be greater burnet-saxifrage I have leaf photo. Can you say something definitive now? ciaomežikanje
great burnet? 1
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Apolonija30. 06. 2015 22:07:00
Peter, hello! I'm glad too that you announced. It would be good if you always did when noticing wrong naming.....so we don't remain in error. Now I looked better at this hawkweed, haven't seen it in nature yet. On your pic, Zlatica, I spotted only long protruding leaves and already thought it was. zadrega
Once I'd like to see black hellebore. Apparently grows in Bohinj too, somewhere by Sava. Regards
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peter230. 06. 2015 22:59:16
It could be Villar’s trebelje: Villar’s trebelje
Not 100% identification..
Hawkweeds are complicated..
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keber130. 06. 2015 23:55:40
@Apolonija - that "Greek" svišč was the only one I've seen anywhere (and there weren't few). Could be some mutation too, it happens. But it was really nice, hope something comes of it in the future.nasmeh
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Apolonija1. 07. 2015 11:26:15
Peter, good day. I'd like to ask you something. I go to Klek mountain often, especially when Pannonian svišč blooms. Once someone told me that you Bohinj folks came and researched the plants. You were surprised, I hear, by how many plant species grow there and especially because you found a rare plant. He showed it, but didn't know the name. I think it was some type of drežica. Do you know more about it? Regards
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zlatica1. 07. 2015 17:48:20
Hello, a couple of little flowers from yesterday on the path to Virnikov Grintovec..velik nasmehmežikanje
large-flowered foxglove1
globeflower2
common arnica3
mossy saxifrage4
Carniolan lily5
rock speedwell?6
rock speedwell?7
sea thrift flower8
mountain thrift9
thick-leaved thistle10
cyclamen11
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velkavrh1. 07. 2015 18:29:43
zlatica, under no. 10 is the thick-leaved thistle.
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peter21. 07. 2015 19:51:30
Apolonija hello!
Probably more time could be found to check all the flowers posted if I was e.g. in a pension mežikanje. But unfortunately it doesn't always work out.
Quite a few interesting flowers grow on Klek and sadly I don't know which one exactly you mean.
Regards
Peter
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zlatica1. 07. 2015 21:52:06
velkavrh, thanks for the thistle and good night.mežikanje
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Apolonija1. 07. 2015 21:58:14
Peter, hi! I believe you don't have enough time.
That man said you thought this plant was something special or that it is special that it grows here. Maybe he overemphasized it? It seemed to me it belongs to drežice (Selaginella), relatives of clubmosses and ferns. Anyway, never mind. Forget it.nasmeh

https://www.google.si/search?q=selaginella&biw=1280&bih=939&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fEOUVejdGIGvUq3QudAL&ved=0CB0QsAQ
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Apolonija2. 07. 2015 07:25:06
Good morning! No, not about clubmosses, but a plant not among "flowering plants". Thanks for the effort. Does this clubmoss grow on Klek too? Regards
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peter22. 07. 2015 20:34:40
Sorry Apolonija, I just saw that I copied the wrong link eek
You probably meant alpine clubmoss:
http://www.petersfoto.si/displayimage.php?pid=4613

Now I don't know which spike-moss you're asking about. Hacquet's? There's none on Klek, but lots under Črna prst. Attaching picture.
Regards
nasmeh
World of Hacquet's louseworts1
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Apolonija2. 07. 2015 22:03:26
Yes, Peter, that's what I meant, many thanks.nasmeh I'll read more about this plant now. You can see well on the pictures that it belongs to the clubmoss genus. It was also called alpine clubmoss (Lycopodium alpinum).

I thought Hacquet's, because you sent me a link to it. Regardsnasmeh
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zlatica3. 07. 2015 13:34:14
Hello! Again quite a few flowers have accumulated on yesterday's path to Veliki vrh (Košuta) above Kofce on the climbing path from Hajnževo sedlo. Some headaches are mainly caused by the white flowers, whose species I can't identify, otherwise the harvest from this and other rocky parts is quite rich. Enjoy the flowers and colors, and if you know any of my unknowns, I'll be glad for your info. regards nasmeh
mountain speedwell1
ovate-leaved fly orchid2
rock campion3
rock campion4
low campion5
low campion6
wedge-leaved rock cress (first time I found it)7
wedge-leaved rock cress8
alpine rock cress9
Alpine rockrose10
Mountain scurvygrass11
Mountain scurvygrass12
Creeping baby's breath13
Scheuchzer's bellflower14
Scheuchzer's bellflower15
Hairy bellflower16
Pannonian pasqueflower already diligently forming buds17
Pannonian pasqueflower18
Bouquet of popon and cobra19
Hard to resist the golden hawkweed20
Golden hawkweed21
Sternberg's pinks22
Sternberg pinks23
woodland vetchling24
mountain wormwood25
mountain wormwood26
bouquet of hairy goldenrod27
oohoho, tufted bellflower already opening individual flowers28
tufted bellflower29
hairy hawkweed, headed hawk's-beard, Sternberg's pink, čober, clover and more30
small yellow knapweed31
Kamnik speedwell32
Kamnik speedwell33
Clusius' cinquefoil already blooming34
scabrous rockcress in full bloom35
scabrous rockcress36
alpine saw-wort37
in the dark rocky crevice the double-flowered violet has found a place38
double-flowered violet39
double-flowered violet40
double-flowered violet41
blackish arnica42
alpine saw-worts43
slope of Kerner's poppy44
Kerner's poppy45
Kerner's poppy46
Kerner's poppy47
Kerner's poppy48
stemless catchfly49
stemless catchfly50
evergreen rock-cress is also awakening51
hairy sandwort52
Kamnik wallflower53
Clusius' cinquefoil in abundance54
solitary Clusius' gentian55
first found at 2000 m altitude - leafless or bare-stemmed speedwell (Veronica aphylla)56
leafless or bare-stemmed speedwell57
golden cinquefoil?58
golden cinquefoil?59
golden cinquefoil?60
golden cinquefoil?61
hairy toothwort62
Vrednik's speedwell63
Vrednik's speedwell64
Vrednik's speedwell65
spring gentian66
Seiber's lousewort67
forest starflower68
round-leaved rockcress69
round-leaved rockcress70
Vanež's flower71
Alpine marmot72
Pink globeflower73
Dead nettle74
Dead nettle75
Golden hawkweed burnet76
Bearded bellflower77
Common mountain speedwell78
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