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Which flower is this?

velkavrh17. 07. 2017 06:57:52

I dealt quite a bit with bellflowers about a year ago. I found out that three are very similar: deviant, Witasek's and Marchesetti's. We distinguish mainly by flower buds. In Marchesetti's they are erect, in the other two nodding. So one is already eliminated. Actually literature says we distinguish them only by stamen length. The deviant has extremely short stamens. So let's look at those stamens. If we look at Witasek's bellflower we see it has very long stamens.

My conclusion is that it really is the deviant bellflower. But my conclusion is not 100%.

I photographed Witesekino zvončico last time on the path to Dolina Triglavskih jezer. At least the prašnice and kimasti cvetni popki are visible.

zlatica17. 07. 2017 07:41:05

Thanks, both guys, for trying with my bellflower. Recently you already had a debate on HN about these bellflowers, I saw it afterwards and it was very interesting. I've met Witasek's a few times on Kamniški vrh and I'd join your opinion that this last one isn't it. What about picture 9? Do you have any idea? The word rush keeps going through my head, but I'm not sure if that's the right direction. velik nasmeh

Apolonija17. 07. 2017 12:03:22

Good day! You are really active. Slowly we'll know the bellflowers. "Zaplana.net" helps a lot with that, right?
Velkavrh, on your picture I really see nodding flowers, but no stamens velik nasmeh

. but I agree with all who say that Zlatica photographed the deviant bellflower.

Zlatica, your 9? Too bad the spikelets are poorly visible. It really looks like rush. But rush likes moisture, as I recall.? Maybe check moor grass, perhaps Sesleria juncifolia (narrow-leaved moor grass). nasmeh

zlatica17. 07. 2017 13:29:15

Apolonija, you're active too, because you help us so nicely. I tried to photograph individual spikelets too, but there was that wind again that didn't let peace. I'll research a bit more, thanks for the hint. velik nasmeh

anka 17. 07. 2017 15:07:28

Zlatica, on the ninth photo it's Jacquin's rush (Juncus jacquinii) velik nasmeh

zlatica17. 07. 2017 15:30:49

anka, you're super. These rushes are really interesting and there are so many species. Good that you know them. As a reward, another photo of the rush closer up, even if it's not the best. You can see that there's still quite a bit missing to flowering, as these are the first buds, if I can call them that. nasmeh

Deniss17. 07. 2017 17:17:33

15.7.2017 from Vrata valley over Sovatna to Stenar. At the top it got me a bit wet, so no views. But flowers are admirable in any weather... nasmeh

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Apolonija17. 07. 2017 17:31:27

Zlatica, we've learned something new again. nasmeh

Jacquin's hawkweed is widespread in Slovenia in subalpine-alpine communities of the Julian Alps and (rarely) Karawanks.....

velkavrh18. 07. 2017 12:07:51

Today we botanized Zelenica-study. To the Vrtača hut we collected already a huge number of specimens.

I was a bit surprised by such early flowering of gentian. I don't know how to identify the species. There are several species of these violet gentians. Only the stemless gentian is blue colored and there's only one. Gentians are typical late summer flowers. Some specimens are even already wilted. Also so low - right at the start of the ski slope on the left side it flowers, where Kerner's poppy also flowers, I haven't found it yet.

We found lots of edelweiss - over thirty just to half the ski slope, where they removed the ski lift poles. Also scree, deformed and nettle-leaved bellflower is among them. I don't see scree bellflowers often this year. Mostly I see the pot-bellied one. Wonderful was that rock overgrown with Zois' bellflowers opposite those steps before reaching the hut on Zelenica. Of course we mustn't pick protected flowers. Only Zois' bellflower is protected among bellflowers. We even found already the Pannonic gentian - near the monuments of deceased students and teachers - avalanche victims. Turk's and Carniolan lilies have already bloomed out.

We could do a lesson on rock-jasmines - I counted ten species - also dwarf ones are among them. And probably missed some. Also fragrant meadow saffron is there - already has fruits - smells a lot.

Evergreen rockrose. Of rockroses we find to the hut at Zelenica only the scaly one.

Surprise - we find blooming Pannonian svišč - protected. Only for photo.

Bushy bellflower - plenty on the right bank as soon as we step onto the former ski slope. Chairlift poles removed.

Already on the path to the hut at Zelenica, at the entrance to the memorial path - monument to deceased skiers, students and teachers of Iskra Kranj.

Those were on the rock opposite those steps before you spot the hut at Zelenica.

Bladder bellflower - of course we botanized also the scree, monstrous, nettle-leaved ones. Zois's we couldn't, because protected.

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zlatica19. 07. 2017 18:45:33

Deniss, very nice specimens of little flowers from below Stenar, the gentians are still quite dewy young.. mežikanje

Branko, this time you were a bit stingy with photographs, I expected at least some more mountain avens, so you'd teach us something more.

I was hiking yesterday around Trupejev polden and to Vošca, where beautiful vistas and views of peaks delighted me, little flowers though barely a sample. Let me "stuff" you with at least these few... best nasmeh

Feathery hawkweed; there were at least a few clusters of them.

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otiv19. 07. 2017 21:28:51

Is this Divjak's lady's mantle?? not hairy at all. velik nasmeh

Apolonija19. 07. 2017 23:46:34

By shape and texture the leaves are correct and flowers too. Maybe it shaved zmeden

grega_z_brega19. 07. 2017 23:47:41

metrosexual zavijanje z očmi

velkavrh20. 07. 2017 03:17:55

This lady's mantle really has unusual leaves and stem for Divjak's. All pics of this lady's mantle show that it has basal leaves and densely hairy stem - impression of grayness. Otherwise flowers are correct, also such scattered flowers on top - not so nicely arranged flowers as say in silverweeds.

roženkravt20. 07. 2017 16:00:09

Velkavrh, on your photo no 28 from 13.7.2017 (when you were searching for Rhapontic) it's definitely not dark-red helleborine, but on the photo is Dark-red helleborine (Epipactis atrorubens) from the orchid family.

Best roženkravt

roženkravt20. 07. 2017 16:10:45

Adding a photo of the dark-red helleborine.

Apolonija20. 07. 2017 18:24:03

Hello, roženkravt. Regarding epipactis you're completely right. I believe Velkavrh knows it well too. Surely sometimes he's in a hurry, as his mind is already on new ventures and there's a slip. It's good we remind each other of it, nasmeh

roženkravt20. 07. 2017 19:32:53

Good day.
Such cooperation is more than excellent, no doubt. We learn a lot from each other and improve our knowledge. The warning was definitely not malicious, but well-intentioned, so that no one learns it wrong. nasmeh

velkavrh21. 07. 2017 16:09:29

Yesterday's flowers of Velika Baba and Velika Monturna.

It is Polinii's catchfly. It is very similar to the common campion.

Almost wilted blue spike repuš or Zahlbruckner's. These two are very similar.

This is the flowering time of abraščevolistni grint - it colors from yellow to intense orange.

The scree is home to the yellowish onion.

The scree likes the Julian gentian - endemic of the Julian Alps.

Here and there we find pink-red catchfly.

Towards Velika Baba we find the Triglav rose.

Suddenly we find ourselves in the world of edelweiss.

It starts to smell like vanilla - Rhelikani's primrose.

Clusius' primrose, I also saw the golden primrose, after the afternoon.

Evergreen kamnokreč, of course the scaly one is the most common, I also saw round-leaved, clustered and blue-green ones.

Below the summit of Velika Montura I come across Divjak's hawkweed, which is not very common.

I think I recognized Kerner's dimek - Crepis jacquini ssp. kerneri.

This bellflower grew also in a rock crevice, but it has a different flower than the pot-bellied one.

Higher in the mountains we find alpine lady's mantle-Alchemilla alpina.

One of the gentians-has extremely small flowers. I found two more different ones. One was similar to the Carinthian one. Around here the Soča one should grow.

Woolly bellflower right at Krn Lake. I also saw monstrous, clustered, nettle-leaved, bushy, Scheuchzer's, broad-leaved ones - it has the largest flowers - found in the forest.

Prealpine willowherb - Epilobium alpestre.

velkavrh21. 07. 2017 18:01:50

Today, the second day of botanizing Zelenica. Unfortunately we had to make a plan for the herbarium and there wasn't so much time for photographing. We made a loop from the hut at Vrtača, across the hut at Zelenica, across Dom pri izviru Završnice, to the saddle Šija, from there along the path that leads to Vrtača, at the signposts back to Zelenica. We made quite an extensive loop and fulfilled the plan.