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| jprim26. 08. 2017 15:20:08 |
The section is all praiseworthy and the photos too. We can learn quite a lot, of course if we want.
For me flowers are for the soul.
Best!
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| Apolonija28. 08. 2017 22:42:07 |
Zlatica, what a splendor! 
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| velkavrh29. 08. 2017 09:54:12 |
Zlatica, probably you meant Rhaetian poppy or did you mean Petkovšek's. We have three yellow poppies and distinguish them by leaves. Flowers are very similar. I only know where which grows - to distinguish exactly between them I wouldn't dare. I'm not at home with these yellow flowers. Last time around Razor I vainly watched for Triglav dimk. Smiljk I also somehow don't distinguish. At home in rock garden it nicely flowers and spreads the one from Vremščica. Škržolica I think is not hairy - too little shaggy.
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| Apolonija29. 08. 2017 13:39:35 |
Brane, but I don't understand what you're asking Zlatica. She wrote Rhaetian poppy. Petkovšek's differs from it precisely not by leaves, but by capsule length. Maybe in a few years we'll distinguish yellow ones too I haven't seen Petkovšek's in nature yet. In pictures the head looks more elongated and thus narrower.
And those škržolice: one is shaggy, other hairy, third long-haired, fourth.....Shaggy is easiest to recognize of these.
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| zlatica29. 08. 2017 14:55:40 |
As written, I meant Rhaetian poppy and labeled it so, because Petkovšek's is so rare, and more in Krn group, so I didn't think of it. Seeking differences in poppy head is too demanding for me. Brane, edelweiss I also don't recognize all species, only the one quite characteristic, both by leaves and stem branching which splits into 3 flower stems, as AM writes. Yes, finding Triglav dimek would be interesting too, agree. And one more, I almost forgot; Brane I also think škržolica isn't shaggy, so still guessing.
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| velkavrh29. 08. 2017 16:04:57 |
I really overcomplicated those poppies - I apologize.
I recognized the unknown škržolica. It's the hareleaf hawkweed featured on the botanical trail of Crna Prst. This year when visiting that trail, it wasn't blooming yet.
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| velkavrh29. 08. 2017 16:29:32 |
I know how it is with these yellow poppies. The Rhaetian one is of course the Julian poppy. We only find it exceptionally on top of Skuta. Just a week from today we're going up, but I think we missed the flowering. On Rdeči rob and by the lake in Lužnica, Petkovšek's poppy is already growing, but we haven't seen it yet this year on 10.06.2017. Probably we were too early. But I checked albums from eight years back and looked for both yellow Julian poppies and both escaped me somehow. It's true that in between my computer crashed and I lost photos from a couple of years. I partially copied them back from everywhere, but a lot was lost. Now for years I have an external disk and transfer regularly. But we enjoyed the fields of silver gentianella and found for the first time the endemic of the Krn mountain range - blackish mountain avens.
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| peter229. 08. 2017 20:12:44 |
There are many species of hawkweeds, many hybrids too, and they cause headaches in identification even for professional botanists.
Velkavrh, on the botanical trail where the sign for hareleaf hawkweed is, there's also a hybrid that we can't identify. The hareleaf hawkweed grows right behind it (half a meter away). I'm attaching a picture. But I think specimens of these haven't been found around Žrda.
Zlatica, the Triglav bellflower is currently one of the still blooming flowers. But you'll have to climb at least to Stanič's hut, Kredarica, Planika or the crumbling Morbegna. This bellflower really deserves its name, as it really grows mostly only around Triglav.
Regards
Peter S.
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| zlatica29. 08. 2017 20:32:42 |
Peter2, thanks for your info. Now that you've posted the picture of the hareleaf hawkweed, I'm almost sure mine from Žrda isn't that one, as it doesn't have a branched and leafy stem. The Triglav bellflower is phenomenal anyway, just lives a bit high up  regards
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| velkavrh30. 08. 2017 09:30:07 |
Peter2, that means that picture no. 3 isn't the real hawkweed either. I see it's completely different - even in growth it's clear. I took the picture on Planina Suha.
A couple of years ago I specifically studied hawkweeds and somehow in recognition stayed only at the hairy, long-haired one - it's low and very bright yellow. And even that can be confused with whitish, pale, bluish. We have no trouble with mouse-ear and wood hawkweed. I know the orange one, but haven't seen it in nature yet - only cultivated. I think I'd recognize the clustered one too. Others - club-headed, Hoppe's, Bouhin's, tall, Florentine, Moris's, divided, densely hairy, there are hybrids too and some more, but surely not.
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| peter230. 08. 2017 14:40:32 |
Velkavrh, definitely not hareleaf hawkweed. I don't even know if it grows on Suha.
Regarding the bellflower you pointed out to me last time in email, I forwarded it today and waiting for response.
Regards
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| Apolonija30. 08. 2017 15:29:48 |
Brane, hi! You know well the scarlet red bunny's-ear (Prenanthes purpurea), right? This hawkweed has such/similar leaves as that one, that's why it's called hareleaf hawkweed (Hieracium prenanthoides).
I'm also interested in that bellflower of yours and according to my lay thinking, maybe it's a hybrid....
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| peter21. 09. 2017 06:34:00 |
Brane, you have the answer to the question about the bellflower in your email.
Regards, Peter
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| velkavrh1. 09. 2017 19:35:39 |
zlatica under no. 21 you have dwarf hairy alkanet. With your yellow one I played around a bit. You really photographed it well - also the leaves, which are often decisive for determination. Could be real viper's bugloss, or just common alkanet or eggleaf. For exact determination I'd really need Flora Alpina.
Grasses I studied a year ago. For no.12 I'd suggest meadow foxtail - similar only to grey-green muhly. For no. 13 I'd go for whitish beckia. But not necessarily the determination is correct.
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| Apolonija1. 09. 2017 20:13:43 |
It always impresses me when some mountains light up due to alpine goldenrod. Zlatica, I also think it's dwarf hairy hawkweed, the alpine one has different leaves. The first grass is cat's tail, it's not hawk's beard like that, the second has flowers like foxglove, can also be white.
Yellow one? Sticky groundsel is ruled out. It has narrow grass-like leaves, round stem, different flowers. Could be common otavčič (jajčar)
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| velkavrh2. 09. 2017 06:04:17 |
Well Apolonija, I hit it right, didn't I? There are really tons of grasses. I've studied them in nearby meadows, groves, slopes and also along mountain paths. I still study mushrooms, butterflies, birds too. I already know a bit where certain butterflies are.
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