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| Zvonček21. 07. 2019 17:16:48 |
What photographs, Deniss, especially the green wolf's tongue!! AMAZING pictures! You always brighten our day! Lp
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| velkavrh21. 07. 2019 17:39:27 |
A bit of my musing about Nigritellas.
Mr. Blaž Blažič's master's thesis (publicly available - written 2017) mentions only six species of Nigritella in Slovenia and two taxa (subspecies)
1.Kamnik Nigritella - generally known, grows in KSA and Karavanks
2. Wider's Nigritella - similar in color to Kamnik (tender red above, whitish below). Grows only in Julians - rare - I found it on Veliki Špič and on Velo polje below Vodnikov dom. We haven't known it for long.
3.Rhelikani's Nigritella - common in Julians, also found in Karavanks. Since it's so much darker we can't mix it with others. I find it all over Julians and Karavanks - even near Zelenica.
But in Karavanks its subspecies appears - scarlet red taxon of Rhelikani's Nigritella. In growth similar to Rhelikani's, only strongly red colored.
4.Janez's Nigritella - grows in Julians - I haven't confirmed it yet. Flower is more round shaped and light pink.
5. Austrian Nigritella - grows in Karavanks on Košuta ridge area. I haven't found it yet. Common in Austria. More stocky and strongly violet-red colored.
6. Red Nigritella - it's the Julian one and also found in Karavanks. Uniform light red color. Blažič calls it Nigritella minuarta sensu lato. Growth characteristically pyramidal. I regularly find it in Julians.
Here it also mentions subspecies of red Nigritella - Mini TJ. Also uniformly red - but not so pyramidal growth.
Nigritella expert from Bohinj also mentions with red ones - bicolor (Nigritella bicolor - I find it in Julians - whitish below and red above - growth elongated) and moisture-loving (Nigritella hygrophila - I don't know it). Whether confirmed by experts I don't know.
These two Nigritellas the master's thesis doesn't mention.
Hybrids with orchids are often mentioned.
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| sAleska21. 07. 2019 23:01:18 |
I went to Košutnikov turn via the western path. A little below the state border, where the path turns sharply left, I found these wonderful little flowers whose name I don't know. I checked the last 10 pages but didn't see it.
My second question is: how do you edit the text under the picture?
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| velkavrh22. 07. 2019 04:47:04 |
I just saw it on Saturday in the Karnic Alps too. You have the name under no. 9.
You must log in. On the left side there's a green box and you click the pictures icon and your pics will stand upright. Correct or add subtitle and confirm. Best regards.
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| zlatica22. 07. 2019 08:35:17 |
Or isn't it on the right side?
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| tinky22. 07. 2019 08:51:16 |
Yes on the right, go to "pictures" and correct it.
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| sAleska22. 07. 2019 09:16:06 |
Thank you very much for all the answers.
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| darinka422. 07. 2019 10:26:51 |
On Saturday towards Mali Golak I saw white bellflowers. Interesting.
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| zlatica22. 07. 2019 11:34:25 |
darinka, you found a nice white specimen or albino bellflower.
But I'll go back a bit to velkavrh's picture 2 from Karnijci, which you, Zvonček, named alpine ščavje. I think it's alpine sorrel, ščavje (folk name) is field sorrel, which has longer and narrower leaves, while alpine sorrel has slightly longer than wide leaves (almost round) with a pointed tip, which is clearly visible in the photo itself. There are actually 21 species of sorrel and they interbreed. Alpine sorrel inhabits the montane world, ščavje or field sorrel along paths, ditches and as weed in fields. I know we mostly observe more colorful and beautiful flowers, but these plants are also part of nature and interesting to me, so in recent years I've been observing and studying them more.. sometimes I even walked right past them....
http://www.bioportal.si/fotoarhiv.php?iskanec=topolistna%20kislica
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| piotr22. 07. 2019 12:30:05 |
Some flowers from upper Styria.
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| velkavrh22. 07. 2019 20:28:35 |
piotr here are my identifications:
1.-dwarf soapwort-Saponaria pumila-the only flower among those you showed that doesn't grow here
2.-one-flowered cat's-ear-Hypochoeris uniflora
3.-definitely bellflower could be Beck's-not inflated, nor Scheuchzer's, let alone downy.
4.-I think it's willow-leaved oxeye-Buphthalmum salicifolium.
5.-bearded bellflower -Campanula barbata
6.-orange hawkweed -Hieracium aurantiacum-among others we find it on Pokljuka
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| piotr22. 07. 2019 21:45:17 |
Velkavrh, thanks for the expert help.
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| Zvonček22. 07. 2019 22:56:31 |
Zlatica, thanks for the lesson on alpine ščavje. But its habitat is also damp pastures, around stables and alpine huts, where it grows even decades after grazing stops (I read that).
Today I went to Smrekovsko pogorje to Komna, where there's the only site of the rare and endangered alpine bellflower here. Unfortunately I didn't find it. But I came across bearded bellflowers (whose flowers weren't bearded at all), Witasek's bellflower and on top of Komna wonderful Scheuchzer's bellflowers.
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| Zvonček22. 07. 2019 23:04:42 |
Piotr, Velkavrh, I think that on picture no. 3 it's Scheuchzer's bellflower, on 4. it's not willow-leaved oxeye, which flower it is, I can't identify. Best regards
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| velkavrh23. 07. 2019 05:44:13 |
Zvonček, for Scheuchzer's bellflower you'll be right. For the dubious oxeye I'll have to check in Flora Alpina. This handbook has already helped me a lot with identification.
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| Zvonček23. 07. 2019 09:41:30 |
Velkavrh, unfortunately we don't know each other, I'm her. I think it's enough to look at the oxeye specimen on the web and you'll see the difference right away, already in the flower itself. I'll be glad if you find out which flower it is and let us know. Best regards
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| zlatica23. 07. 2019 12:01:36 |
Zvonček, although you didn't find the sought-after bellflower, you were surely happy with these on the pictures too. And indeed, the bearded bellflowers on this path aren't bearded at all, but almost completely smooth. I myself was amazed by this during visits to Smrekovsko pogorje. For the alpine bellflower you were perhaps a bit late, as all photos of this beauty that I've seen so far were taken end of June and beginning of July. That's how I missed it a few years ago too. 
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| Zvonček23. 07. 2019 15:39:48 |
Zlatica, many thanks for the info that you need to look for alpine bellflower earlier and not end of July. A little disappointment was fixed by full bilberry shrubs. And of course all the other bellflowers. Such bearded bellflowers I haven't seen anywhere else so far. I'm glad you share your observations with me and all of us of course.
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