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| darinka424. 07. 2019 06:39:00 |
Such a bouquet yesterday towards the top of Viš.
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| velkavrh24. 07. 2019 07:06:09 |
potka - beautiful - this year I haven't been drawn there to the Triglav Lakes valley yet.
No. 2 - for determination there are only two options, since the leaves are not well visible. Either Triglav marmot or spring marmot.
No. 3 - perhaps not everyone knows - Obir scree plant.
No. 7 - is Rhaetian or Petkovšek poppy. Actually it differs only by seed heads. It has colored wonderfully orange. Usually Kerner poppy colors like that, which is Karavanke and KSA poppy. I've read that Kerner poppy appears in Julian Alps too.
No. 4 and 5 - now there is a clearly visible difference between mountain forget-me-not - No. 4 and Triglav catchfly - No. 5.
darinka4 showed us white mountain poppy - Julian poppy. Beyond mountains we have another white poppy - Sendtner poppy. I haven't seen it yet.
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| potka24. 07. 2019 07:20:30 |
velkavrh, thanks, really blooming richly now. But I have unknowns also under no. 15,16,26,28,29. It's true that paths are additionally enriched with botanical knowledge. Thanks
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| zlatica24. 07. 2019 10:10:29 |
potka, beautiful bouquets and cushions of all colors; let's say something about your unknowns:
15 - mountain pearl,
16 - one of the silenes, all points to blackish silene
26 - round-leaved lousewort, although leaves not lit enough for detailed view - very similar flowers also from Pyrenean rockjasmine, of course different leaves
28 - silene-like rockjasmine, lots of it in Julian Alps
29 - alpine pennycress
19 - all points to Gerard's speedwell
17 - Relikan fescue and feathered hairgrass
and at the end congrats for the found catchfly. 
Branko, your unknown under 19 really interests me. A bit reminds of chickweed, but no, because no proper leaf. Have you found out anything?  And under 6 grass-leaved draba came to mind, because stem seems a bit more grayish and it's native here. Probably you looked well at leaves to determine it as field one. lp
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| potka24. 07. 2019 15:40:29 |
zlatica thanks, I really rejoiced at the catchfly. Yes, some of you are real masters at naming all these beautiful flowers
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| plezac24. 07. 2019 21:20:28 |
Hi,
here are some flowers on the path to Velika (Karawanken) Baba...please help with identification.
LP Janez
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| Zvonček24. 07. 2019 22:19:13 |
Climber, it's not common or alpine columbine. Probably Bertoloni's or similar species Einsele's columbine. In picture 2 is capitate hawkweed, on 3 stemless gentian and on 4 crusty rockjasmine. Lp
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| zlatica25. 07. 2019 15:39:53 |
Yes, what nice paths you're taking this year, Zvonček! This is surely summer vacation time. And the bouquets are so nicely arranged along the path, pleasure to look at them! That flower that was still hiding its beauty from you (10) is evergreen rockjasmine. Before flowering it has heads still drooping, when they lift, they enchant us with their yellow beauty, over time the fruit turns to orange-red color, which beautifies everything even more...
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| plezac25. 07. 2019 17:27:32 |
@zvonček thanks!
If it's not alpine and common columbine, what species are then Aquilegia alpina and Aquilegia vulgaris? In the booklet Hoppe, Alpine flowers, 2013, they are named as alpine and common columbine?
LP Janez
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| zlatica25. 07. 2019 20:51:54 |
Since I accidentally saw your question, which is addressed to Zvonček, let me just say this. Ansgar Hoppe is a German botanist, author of the mentioned book. This book features many flowers that don't grow here at all, including Aquilegia alpina, while your second mentioned - common columbine also grows here. For Slovenia all flowers are listed in Small flora of Slovenia, we have 5 species, among them two already mentioned by Zvonček, then also common, large-flowered and dark violet columbine. Columbines are not easy to identify, among them the dark violet is the most distinguishable due to special color....
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| Apolonija25. 07. 2019 20:58:10 |
Janez, let me interject a bit too. Of course common columbine grows here too, but usually in lower areas. Zvonček is right that there is no alpine in Slovenia, but besides common there are 4 others: dark violet, large-flowered, Einsele's and Bertoloni's. As for the gentian, it's heart-leaved, whose stem has already grown a bit more, the bare one has much larger leaves
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| Zvonček25. 07. 2019 21:39:07 |
Janez, I wrote poorly. I wanted to say: It's not common or alpine columbine. And I caused Zlatica and Apolonija to chime in. I apologize to all three.
Zlatica, thanks for evergreen rockjasmine. Until now I saw only its final, most beautiful version.
Lp all
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| velkavrh26. 07. 2019 05:52:56 |
Let me chime in on the columbine topic too. Just yesterday I took a book from our renowned botanist Jože Bavcon from 2013 from the library. He mentions five species of columbines. Not long ago the Julian columbine was confirmed, which is endemic to our Julian Alps and still grows on the Italian side. In the genus there are seventy species in total by flower.
I think we most confuse common columbine and large-flowered. Common columbine is violet, while large-flowered is blue. Already at the beginning of Zelenica both usually grow close together. Higher up we find dark violet, which we confuse with common. Bertoloni's we find if we descend from Czech hut to Umik Žrela. There is extensive stand. The newly confirmed Julian one we will surely see on Črna prst. Einsele's we will surely see on the mulattiera leading to Dolič.
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| velkavrh26. 07. 2019 06:37:08 |
If there's time I delve into umbellifers. In general we know them, since we grow quite a few in the garden. I grow quite a few - from parsley to caraway. I even grow less known parsnip. Already in the garden troublesome weed common chervil bothers us. On the forest edge or meadow we already see common hemlock, wild carrot and forest cow parsley - and some more we would find. Already at our starting points to mid-mountain we will see quite a few. In mid-mountain already many.
A couple days ago I photographed common baldmoney along the path to Otliško okno. This baldmoney has such dense umbel that it shouldn't be confused with similar ones and characteristic parsley leaves. Already some years ago the Latin name bothered me. Again I have borrowed Flora Alpina - there it is under name Seseli libanotis, Hoppe has it under same Latin name - translator calls it root-leaved baldmoney. Botanical garden Ljubljana has it under Latin name Libanotis sibirica (there's picture next - it's the right one). I know that on Karst here grows its subspecies without Slovenian name - S. libanotis subsp. pyrenaica.
Umbellifers are very complex flowers. We have as many as 300 genera with 3,000 species. Only in Slovenia there are 57 genera with 115 species - says Mr. Bavcon.
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| potka26. 07. 2019 07:42:42 |
This one is probably an albino specimen of columbine, or not?
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| velkavrh26. 07. 2019 09:34:55 |
potka, yes, if they found it in nature. Otherwise we have a whole bunch of garden columbines of different colors and with different flowers. But these cultivated columbines spread into nature. I for example bought a seedling of cultivated columbine (don't know which species though - it was garden). It flowered only that year when I bought it (dark violet), then it didn't survive the winter.
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| potka26. 07. 2019 09:40:20 |
Photographed on the path to Črna prst.Lp
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| zlatica26. 07. 2019 14:09:22 |
Branko, if I continue your debate on the topic of naming the common medicinal plant, which is one of the most beautiful umbellifers for me... In our area the name common medicinal plant really belongs to the Latin name Libanotis sibirica, which has two subspecies, namely: L. sibirica subsp. montana and as you mentioned the other subsp. pyrenaica, characteristic of the karst landscape.
The Latin naming in Flora Alpina with Slovenian name common medicinal plant is really Seseli libanotis, which is the name of the same flower by Koch, while our L. sibirica is by C.A.Mey, which I understand as a synonym.
Similarly with the carrot-leaved medicinal plant. In MFS for this Slovenian term the corresponding Latin is Libanotis daucifolia, which however by Hoppe, who names the plant by Koch, is Seseli libanotis subsp. liocarpum. Exactly this last part of the Latin name is not listed in Hoppe's handbook, because it's just a handbook for simpler flower recognition. All these "scientific namings and synonyms" of flowers are for us laymen mostly too hard a nut and I think in many cases it's better to stick to determining the basic species rather than subspecies, which is sometimes hard even for botanists.
But it's certainly positive that sometimes we get interested and notice these differences also in various literatures, because with that we learn how much work different botanists long before our time had with naming and classifying individual flowers into genera, families or species....
Surely Apolonija would know even more smart things to say on this topic, who is much more at home with Latin/scientific names than most of us. 
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