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malenka15. 10. 2020 16:25:52
Erect cinquefoil (Potentilla recta)
Upright cinquefoil (Potentilla recta), Karst edge, Slovenia.1
Upright cinquefoil (Potentilla recta) has leaves serrated along the entire margin; Karst edge, Slovenia.2
Upright cinquefoil (Potentilla recta), Serbia.3
Upright cinquefoil (Potentilla recta), Serbia.4
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malenka15. 10. 2020 16:29:52
Field elm (Ulmus minor)
Field elm (Ulmus minor)1
Field elm (Ulmus minor)2
Field elm (Ulmus minor)3
Field elm (Ulmus minor)4
Field elm (Ulmus minor)5
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velkavrh16. 10. 2020 06:21:35
malenka is also introducing us to shrubs and trees. Over a good decade ago I marked an area or rather an 80x80m surface in a little forest near home by the Kokra river, fenced it with string and tried to identify species among that shrubbery and trees. I went from shrub to shrub and also from taller trees to another tree, collected tree leaves, stuck numbers on tree trunks, noted under which number I picked the leaf and at home figured out from manuals which tree it was. Sadly I only identified for a good half which tree it was. With well-known ones you already figure out the species—for example with oak, hornbeam, beech, spruce—with various shrubbery it gets complicated.

Recently village retirees were in Rogaška and there we viewed in the museum also a museum section with trees (trees) that grow there—exhibited are trunks—very interesting.
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velkavrh16. 10. 2020 06:40:28
Malenka diligently shows us umbellifers too. On the botanical path Črne prsti you can see - several are marked - quite a lot of umbellifers. I still have trouble determining them. I'll show some. Malenka will check correctness - thanks in advance!

There are many umbellifers. I didn't look at them when I had borrowed Small Flora of Slovenia, so I don't know if Haller's deerwort, lizard, alpine nose grow with us. Sea hogweed also belongs to umbellifers, which we meet by the sea-also with us.
We see both bedrences - neither is labeled - this is the veliki bedrenec.1
Veliki bedrenec - determined by malenka.2
Dlakavo trebelje - determined by malenka.3
Flowers of this clover - identified by Malenka.4
Pink or Bohinj gentian - as written in the handbook of the botanical trail Črne prsti.5
Common woodland angelica. I also find it near the hut.6
Flowers of Austrian cow-wheat - identified by Malenka.7
Same cow-wheat - identified by Malenka.8
Pollini's gentian - also called scree gentian - told by Malenka.9
Same gentian.10
Broad-leaved deer-root - probably identified by Malenka.11
Broad-leaved deer-root.12
Such leaves the broad-leaved deer-root has.13
Common or carrot-leaved arnica.14
Common rock samphire.15
Not alpine deer-grass - told by Malenka. On Črna prst we see both differently - rock and alpine Malenka.16
Striped cow-wheat.17
Striped cow-wheat I photographed on the path to Kucelj.18
This should be mountain gentian - in valleys there is a lot of common gentian.19
Large marsh helleborine.20
Bavarian dwarf.21
Carniolan cow-wheat.22
Fragrant orchid.23
Whole meadows of fragrant orchid I saw also on the tour there below Krn near Planina Duplje.24
Shiny speedwell - I hope it is correctly identified - no label for this cow-wheat. I see it also around Vodnikov dom.25
Thyme. I even have it at home - it grows successfully under rhododendron.26
Rib-veined Hladnikia grows on Čavnu. At this little rock there was a plaque of this endemic.27
Malenka notes that not even the real leaves are visible. Perhaps someone stole it.28
Shiny velestika - determined by Malenka.29
Rock vegetation - this grows on the top of Črna prst.30
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Austrian bellflower32
Alpine pasqueflower from Črna prst - where they grow around there, our famous botaniker showed me.33
They are gorgeous.34
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malenka16. 10. 2020 09:16:34
Velkavrh, some photos are such that it's simply impossible to identify the umbellifer, you just get some new gray hair if you try.
Small bedrenec doesn't exist, there is the common one that flowers white. But great bedrenec can also sometimes be shorter in height. The essential difference is seen in leaves (which in photo 2 are not detailed enough).
3 and 4 are probably hairy chaerophyllum. Villars' chaerophyllum flowers white.
Look look, Bohinj people have appropriated the pink hogweed?!? As far as I know, this hogweed is Austrian or its subspecies pinkish hogweed (Heracleum austriacum subsp. siifolium), so says Wraber; this subspecies is our endemic that reaches Austria in Karavanke. Otherwise in Austrian hills grows the other, typical subspecies (subsp. austriacum).
7, 8: common selivka doesn't exist, only Kranj one, but I think on these two photos it's actually Austrian obočnica.
9, 10: Polinijev hogweed is subspecies of common, another name is scree hogweed; grows only high in mountains on screes.
11 in my opinion is not siljelistni deerwort, which doesn't have such large umbels; probably broad-leaved, but - as you wrote, we determine it by leaves, which are not visible here. Look at my website. For broad-leaved I believe you because of photo 13 - leaf.
16 doesn't seem at all similar to alpine deerwort to me, here too you'd need to see leaves. Not usually so tall and branched, umbellets are more spaced.
For shiny velestika on photo 25 I'm not sure, looks still quite undeveloped and leaf segments are very delicate and somewhat too dense for it. If planted like this, better to see the label.
But as I can see on photos 27 and 28, label doesn't help if the plant simply isn't there. No Hladnikija here, I know it quite well.
On photo 29 you have 100% shiny velestika - compare with photo 25 ...
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velkavrh16. 10. 2020 12:25:57
Unfortunately it seems that in the small handbook (Flora of Črna prst and its botanical path) by authors Igor Draskobler and Polona Strgar on page no. 27 there is a wrong picture of Villars' chaerophyllum - it's pink (caption -Chaerophyllum villarsii). Maybe you'd discover even more - I wouldn't comment on other pictures. Otherwise it's an excellent handbook - praise to authors!

For Bohinj or pinkish hogweed the caption is -Heracleum austriacum subsp. siifolium (p. 28.)
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:02:52
Velkavrh, not necessarily a mistake! I already told you that flower color varies in many plants and is not important for identification. With hairy and Villars' chaerophyllum it's already so that they can flower white or pink, but first more often pink and second more often white.
For hogweed I saw the name 'bohinjski' for the first time. Strange especially because there's plenty of this hogweed in Karavanke.
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:08:24
Common stonecress (Aethionema saxatile)
Common stonecress (Aethionema saxatile), Mljet, Croatia.1
Common stonecress (Aethionema saxatile), Mljet, Croatia.2
Common stonecress (Aethionema saxatile), Tamar, Slovenia.3
Common stonecress (Aethionema saxatile), Macedonia.4
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:12:44
Loesel's twayblade (Liparis loeselii)
Loesel's twayblade (Liparis loeselii), Dolenjska, Slovenia.1
Loesel's twayblade (Liparis loeselii), Dolenjska, Slovenia.2
Loesel's twayblade (Liparis loeselii), Dolenjska, Slovenia.3
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:14:26
Blue paederota (Paederota bonarota)
Blue paederota (Paederota bonarota), Dolomites, Italy.1
Blue paederota (Paederota bonarota), Dolomites, Italy.2
Blue paederota (Paederota bonarota), Dolomites, Italy.3
Blue paederota (Paederota bonarota), Dolomites, Italy.4
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:16:13
Common knotgrass (Polygonum aviculare)
Common knotgrass (Polygonum aviculare)1
Common knotgrass (Polygonum aviculare)2
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:17:32
Little yellow-rattle (Rhinanthus minor)
Little yellow rattle (Rhinanthus minor)1
Little yellow rattle (Rhinanthus minor)2
Little yellow rattle (Rhinanthus minor)3
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:18:52
Procumbent pearlwort (Sagina procumbens)
Procumbent pearlwort (Sagina procumbens)1
Procumbent pearlwort (Sagina procumbens)2
Procumbent pearlwort (Sagina procumbens)3
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:21:31
Alpine pearlwort (Sagina saginoides)

Type: Flower
Family: pink family
Color: white
Alpine pearlwort (Sagina saginoides), Kriška gora, Slovenia.1
Alpine pearlwort (Sagina saginoides), Kofce, Slovenia.2
Alpine pearlwort (Sagina saginoides), Kofce, Slovenia.3
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malenka16. 10. 2020 14:24:21
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)

Type: Flower
Family: nightshade family
Color: white
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)1
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)2
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)3
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)4
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)5
Black nightshade (Solanum nigrum)6
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velkavrh18. 10. 2020 06:28:45
To brighten up this October greyness, a bit of blue.
Two-leaved squill - Scilla bifolia - fairly common.1
Common alpine snowbells - Soldanella alpina - photographed on Krvavec.2
Pitcher flower from Velebit - Croatia.3
Common mountain sow-thistle - Cicerbita alpina - on the botanical trail Črne prsti.4
Columbine - these columbines confuse me a bit - this is dark violet columbine - Aquilegia atrata - identified by Malenka.5
Bertolon's columbine - Aquilegia bertolonii - grows among scree on Umik Žrela - path to Češka koča on Spodnje Ravne.6
Bohinj iris from Komarče - Iris pallida subsp. cengialtii vochinensis - endemic - I don't know how it is listed in Mala flora Slovenije.7
Pyrenean dragonmouth - Horminum pyrenaicum - photographed in Lower Bohinj Mountains.8
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zvončica18. 10. 2020 09:13:14
Velkavrh, nice choice of flowers. Picture 8 shows July columbine (Aquilegia julia). We've already talked about it, so it won't hurt if it's written once morenasmeh: until 2013, July columbine in Slovenia was known as Bertolon's columbine, which is now considered to grow only in the Apuan Alps (NE Italy and SE France).
Botanists first regarded our July columbine as Bertolon's columbine. Based on herbarium specimens from Škrbina in the Bohinj Mountains, Italian botanist Enio Nardi found that it differs from plants from Italy and France and described it as a new species, which thus "became" a new Slovenian endemic. Best regards!
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malenka18. 10. 2020 10:18:19
Zvončica, you probably meant picture 6 (columbine).

On picture 5 is definitely darkish-violet columbine.
Common columbines are rare in nature, mostly if they escaped from gardens, they are primarily garden ones (one of the most important Slovenian botanists told me).
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velkavrh18. 10. 2020 11:34:02
And a bit of sunshine with the yellowness of scabious.
Alpine ragwort - Senecio alpinus - does not grow here - recorded in Austria in Hohe Tauern.1
Southernwood-leaved or narrow-headed ragwort - Senecio abrotanifolius - quite common in high mountains.2
Tube-flowered ragwort - Senecio cacaliester - photographed on Krvavec.3
Rock ragwort - Senecio rupestris - photographed on Krvavec.4
Divjak's ragwort - Senecio doronicum - photographed on Vremščica.5
Fuchs' ragwort - Senecio ovatus syn. fuchsii - has dark red stems - common.6
Carniolan ragwort - Senecio incanus subsp. carniolus - subspecies of grey ragwort - grows here (Vajnež) - this one photographed in Austria - Hohe Tauern.7
Grey ragwort - Senecio incanus subsp. incanus - does not grow in Slovenia - photographed in Austria - Hohe Tauern.8
Stem ragwort - Senecio tenuifolia - does not grow here - photographed in Austria.9
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zvončica18. 10. 2020 18:44:35
Of course, malenka, I got the number wrong.nasmeh

Velkavrh, nice choice of gentians. Regards
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