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velkavrh28. 07. 2013 14:03:13

I returned from an extended weekend from Kranjska Gora. Among other things, we were with the grandkids also in Tamar. Nature is very thirsty, which shows strongly in the vegetation too.

For flowers whose exact species I don't know, I indicate only the genus - cotoneaster.

True honey plant - smells like honey - some collect it for tea.

This should be the monstrous bellflower, but I have no leaves for proof.

The leaves are like this; now to identify the species? Since the leaves are pinnately compound, it's the alpine one.

Gentians are a chapter unto themselves. This is supposed to be the single-scaled one. I know that to determine the variety, the leaves and the area under the flower also need to be photographed.

This could be the common or feathery gentian - all three grew near the hut in Tamar.

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Apolonija28. 07. 2013 15:18:59

Brane, very nice flower pics although from lower altitude than usual.
-I read that the aberrant bellflower differs from two similar ones by stamen length, which are very short. Yours turns away and stamens are not visible.
-another remark, maybe welcome, maybe unnecessary: When learning ornamental plants I learned /well, already in school/ what is family, genus, species, variety. At 5. you say naming species grabljišče because you don't know the variety. Actually you named genus "Knautia", species would be "field, forest, Hungarian, Macedonian, Illyrian, long-leaved...". Perennial from teasel family. This is sometimes important for searching. nasmeh

velkavrh28. 07. 2013 16:52:01

I did mix genus and species a bit. Will be more careful in future. Tomorrow to Vogel then to Spodnja Komna looking for gentian. Said already blooming - that one blooming earlier. L.P.

Of small bellflowers only this one was there.

Apolonija28. 07. 2013 18:02:01

This heat doesn't stop you? Looking forward to new post. Lp

velkavrh28. 07. 2013 19:59:12

I haven't been to Vogel even in winter, although we often had skis with us, but it happened that we stayed in Srednja vas and skied a bit only on Senožeti.

Apolonija28. 07. 2013 23:04:06

If you photograph the yellow gentian, you'll surely also photograph the red Pannonian one.

velkavrh29. 07. 2013 04:06:22

I know the Pannonian one well, I know it blooms last, then chalice and hairy gentianella and silky-leaved gentian follow – acquaintance of our forests.

velkavrh29. 07. 2013 21:15:32

Today on a full-day tour through Žagarjev graben to the Vogel ski slopes, then to Vogel mountain – 1922 m – and through Spodnja Komna valley.

Common bloody cranesbill in Žagarjev graben.

On Vogla ski slopes there are even stands of common andromeda.

Below Vogel summit I find edelweiss - they are not common here.

From Vogel summit onwards there is a lot of Pyrenean houseleek.

The sign lists Austrian hogweed-Heracleum austriacum subsp. siifolium.

Now the three highlights of today's tour - Relikan's (black) murka right below Vogel summit.

I found its habitat on the path to Spodnja Komna.

Here I also find flowering košutnik - bratinski svišč. First time I encounter it on the pasture below Bohinjski Migovec, but they were already over.

Košutnik flower. Before Govnač pasture it turns to the path to Dom na Komni. Soon I find several unflowered košutniks. In the end reward for effort - also flowering ones.

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Apolonija29. 07. 2013 22:01:13

The effort was worth it. You even found a blooming rapontic. You really have luck with albinos, or rather you're a very good observer. So this is fraternal potentilla, because it has fused stamens and pointed corolla leaves.? I thought the storm got you.

velkavrh30. 07. 2013 05:26:36

This year the weather in the mountains changes very quickly. The sun shines and suddenly the rain pours. It was no different this time. It rained on me for more than two hours. It started half an hour before the hut on Komna and to Savica. I barely managed to protect the backpack and put on rain gear. Today I continue with the further presentation of flowers from the tour.

otiv30. 07. 2013 07:50:01

Brane, in the mountains the weather always changes quickly and the forecast was also worse for the afternoon for the Julians, so you got away quite well, if I can say so. Surprisingly, yesterday during the passage of the cold front there was no thunder, at least not in Ljubljana. Otherwise it wouldn't have been too nice on the tour. You probably forgot about the weather with all the flowers and enjoyed as much as possible. nasmeh

Best regards!

velkavrh30. 07. 2013 08:07:46

Yes, before the rain I experienced the highlight of the flower tour, so I even welcomed the rain. Until then the weather was ideal. Now I continue with the flowers from the tour.

In between I even find forest strawberries.

These should be the nicest flowers of Vogel.

Sieber's leopard's-bane flowers are similar to the headed one, only the headed one grows on a tall stem.

Among the low bellflowers, besides the pot-bellied and rare Zois's, this one was present everywhere. I'm not sure which one it is.

There is a lot of this rock-rose on the entire path - it should be the blue-green one.

I still have trouble with the rock-roses.

Here the characteristic leaves are clearly visible.

In certain areas it really smelled of these carnations. These are Sterbberg carnations. There is only one flower per stem. At higher altitudes it replaces the Montpellier one, which has several flowers per stem.

Rock-jasmine - the area under the flower is clearly visible. This is the pinnate rock-jasmine.

Of the louseworts these two were found - the whorled lousewort.

The big-headed hawkweed is rarer - I always find it under the Komna hut. We also have the heterophyllous one - only on the Karst, and the dyeing one which has more capitula in the inflorescence - at least five. The big-headed grows higher.

In the rocks of Žagarjev graben I found this cute tuft of white.

This is its flower. It resembles the lady's slipper flower. It is the rock catchfly.

I don't know this tall kobulnica either - over a meter. It also grew at the start of Žagarjev graben. It is the stinking hellebore.

This is its flower. I found more yellow flowers - hawkweeds or others that I will examine a bit more.

Apolonija30. 07. 2013 09:45:22

Brane, if I start from the end: your unknown campion is the inedible stinking elder /Sambucus ebulus/.
The beautiful white cushion can remind you of catchfly, as it's its relative, it's saxifrage campion /Silene saxifraga/. I didn't know the cat's-ear.
Is the one-styled hawkweed a synonym for the feathered one?
How do you know it's not Rhaetian poppy?
What if it's not tender, but blue-green saxifrage? And not homul, but evergreen /aizoides/? Regards nasmeh

Apolonija30. 07. 2013 09:57:07

What if not tender, but tufted?

velkavrh30. 07. 2013 10:55:55

I have already encountered stinking elder, even recently by the road in Stara Fužina.

I have seen saxifrage campion, just not so cutely grown.

I can't distinguish pink hawkweeds yet.

Veleglava cat's-ear is rare. I found it exclusively only here under the Vogel Hut. It looks like a miniature hawkweed. At the top of the stem there are usually several flowers. The color is more intensely muted purple.

I know that in the Julians we find two yellow poppies - Rhaetian and Petkovšek's. Petkovšek's is taller and replaces the Rhaetian in the Krn Mountains. Kerner's is supposed to be limited to Karavanke and KSA, if I'm correctly informed. I'll look a bit more at these poppies and their sites.

It's not tufted saxifrage, because tufted has different flowers. I think I haven't seen it blooming this year yet, only those small buds. Here besides evergreen and encrusted there was only this one and on huge sites already from the top of Žagarjev graben to the end of the path at Lower Komna. I didn't notice others.

These are the cushions of the moss campion.

The flowers themselves are essentially whiter and these white petals are more joined and the flower's throat is more greenish.

I conclude that it is the bluish-green one.

The bluish-green one is very common, as is the crusty one. Host's however prefers cool shady spots.

Apolonija30. 07. 2013 12:17:35

Thanks, Brane for the reply. Slip of the tongue, I meant the Rhaetian one. Oh, these saxifrages! I'm in a hurry. Regards

otiv1. 08. 2013 14:15:28

Yesterday with flowers I didn't find anything new, but I photographed like crazy velik nasmeh

I think it's Zois' bellflower before flowering

It smells nice, I don't know more - hribska špajka

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Apolonija1. 08. 2013 17:07:28

Vito, nice photos, suitable for magazines. Plants powerfully step into the foreground in all their beauty. Where did you take them?
7, 12-glaucous hawkweed /Hieracium glaucum/?
18, 31, 32 blue-green saxifrage
19 100% alpine azalea
21 mountain avens
23, 41 alpine catchfly /silene alpestris/
25, 26 goldenrod
60 marmot it is, of course, but which...Triglav one?
62, 65 I think it's snow dock (Rumex nivalis)
66 only a bit of the leaf visible - maybe mountain spike?
67 flower of pink mountain sorrel?

Brane mentioned the other day he's going to Črna prst today. Can expect edelweiss and alpine cudweed and...Lp

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otiv1. 08. 2013 17:46:40

Thanks! Apolonija you are my teacher, hope without classroom velik nasmeh

I wandered on Deska and Lučki Dedec, real flowering paradise and joy for me.
Best regards! nasmeh

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velkavrh1. 08. 2013 18:10:36

Good day! I was informed that alpine edelweiss flowering can be expected only around 10th August and then I'll really go again to Črna prst. Tomorrow climbing Krn, today from bivouac to bivouac under Kočna, under Grintavec.