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Kriška21. 01. 2010 20:34:06
What are your (positive and/or negative) experiences with hiking GPS devices? Which one would you recommend?
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spetovar22. 01. 2010 14:38:46
I'd recommend GARMIN handheld GPS devices. The reason is that they have better or almost the best map coverage or accuracy. Magellan maps are interesting (better every year) but still don't have such accurate maps.
I'd suggest the following before buying:
1. Check what batteries the
device uses. Namely, for devices that run on
Li-Ion batteries, you have to buy an extra
battery, which aren't cheap. Even if
you have two, it doesn't mean the device
will work through the whole trip (especially
in winter). If you have a GPS that runs on AAA
batteries, you can buy them everywhere,
although I recommend NiMH batteries.
2. For accuracy, it's recommended that the
device has (which almost all already have)
SiRF III chip or high-sensitivity chip.
Although in practice it doesn't mean exactly as
on paper. Depending on where you are,
(trees, wall), weather conditions (thick
fog) all this affects accuracy, which
can be from 5 - 15 meters. Many
already show how much the accuracy is based
on signal strength. Electronic compass and
barometric altimeter help a bit
with accuracy.
3. Waterproofness is desirable, so you
can use the device even in the rain,
which is even more important, no panic
if it "sweats", if you go in winter from hike
to hut (if not waterproof, you have to
put it in a bag before entering the hut -
highly recommended).
4. How you operate the device. Some
have buttons, rollers, touch-sensitive
screens... I have a touchscreen, and I have to
say it works very solidly (although I
was doubtful before buying). The GARMIN Colorado 300 is interesting, it has very few
buttons, but in practice it doesn't prove to be
very functional, especially for writing
addresses.
5. Cartography. You have those that
show you the map, or just
location and direction. I recommend the former, unless
you have it only for training.

I could list more, but if you browse the internet a bit, you'll find all the information.
I myself have the DAKOTA 20 from Garmin, and I'm satisfied with the device. The problem only shows when standing or walking very slowly, as "fictitious" points are recorded that you actually didn't cover. The other drawback is visibility in strong sun. It's true, as written, that it's harder to see, but you just turn away from the sun and it's nasmeh The problem with us is also the price. Garmin has very high prices. I got mine from England for about 120 € cheaper than here.
If you have some specific question, ask.

Best regards
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Kriška22. 01. 2010 14:58:50
Thanks, you were quite comprehensive. nasmeh
On Garmin I see written that they have "basic world map" (?) or something like that, and I'm not quite clear what that is supposed to represent.
Do you use TOPO Slovenia? Can you get something else, e.g. for the Alpine area (Italy, Austria)?
Several years ago I knew an acquaintance who had a Magellan (of course the model is now obsolete ...) and he was very satisfied with it. With Garmin I'm worried about the actual battery life, as I have a bad experience with Garmin for the car, which is also supposed to have battery autonomy up to 4 hours, but actually can't manage much more than half an hour.
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pohodni22. 01. 2010 19:44:27
I also use Garmin DAKOTA 20 (bought two months ago), so I don't have much major experience with it yet.
I use NiMH batteries (four batteries together with charger cost 20 euros), the device's autonomy should be 20 hours. According to my experience, it will hold that, only if it's very cold then the batteries weaken much earlier too.
As for cartography, with the "Basic World Map" you can't help much, since no paths are drawn on it.
I have "TOPO Slovenia" loaded (specifically on a micro-SD card). The map has all marked paths and also some other paths marked.
Otherwise, I haven't figured out yet how to mark a certain path that I want to hike in the simplest way. I draw it approximately on the computer in "Map Source" at quite high magnification along the lines on the cartography, but I don't know how to make it automatically mark the entire desired path, like for example on road maps, where it leads only along the road, but on "TOPO" it leads to the desired point only straight by shortcut, it doesn't pull along the marked path.zavijanje z očmi Maybe someone else knows how to do it.

Best regards




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darjos423. 01. 2010 00:11:24
TOPO Slovenia is a non-routable topographic map, in addition to this cartography add AdriaRoute cartography and it will work like on road maps.
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iztok23. 01. 2010 07:43:56
I like quo(link:http://www.kje.si/index.asp) for viewing and planning trips on the computer with Slo 1:25000, on the phone I have ViewRanger (link:http://www.viewranger.com/) so check it out and read. I think it's good because when you go to the mountains, you must have your phone with you. I have Nokia N82 and it works great for me.big grin
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sonka23. 01. 2010 10:18:11
I personally use GARMIN Forerunner 305 and I'm satisfied with it.
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gore so zakon23. 01. 2010 11:13:21
I have GARMIN Oregon 300 and I'm
very satisfied with it.winking
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mmalok23. 01. 2010 11:19:29
A bit older Garmin Etrex Vista HCx.
There are Topo Austria, Hungary and also Italy - maps are not routable (can't guide you, but have drawn paths). I use the same in the car (no voice guidance), but with Adria Route maps and Europe NT City navigator it gets me where I want, except on serpentines, then it cheats a bit.rolling eyes
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sonka23. 01. 2010 13:20:08
I'm satisfied with Garmin because you can transfer everything to the computer and it's meant as a personal trainer. You see how many km walked, elevation difference, time and many other info. Just for stats. In mountains I enjoy off-trail, or super happy when I find PP, or our well-known red-white marking. But on Debelem vrh in fog it played an important role.
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spetovar25. 01. 2010 08:42:30
On GPS units that support cartography, you can load many maps. I have Topo Adria, Topo Austria, Italy, Germany, France. I use Dakota 20 exclusively for sports and not road navigation, as it has no voice guidance (rarely any hiking GPS has it). Previously I used HTC touch diamond for everything, but it didn't prove to be a good idea, as Garmin software on non-Garmin devices is hopelessly slow.
As for trip preparation: On the computer you can prepare where you'll go, but it won't guide you on actual hiking trails, even if they are drawn (as darjos4 wrote). You can set as many points as possible or even better, get a route that a friend has already done and follow that. Regarding batteries: I have to admit that battery autonomy on Garmin Dakota 20 is solid. Solid means it lasts up to 15 hours of operation, of course depending on how much you use it. If you look (turn on) the screen every minute, i.e. use the device non-stop, the time will be shorter. Also depends on the type and size of batteries used.
And one more thing needs to be said: GPS is not a substitute for a compass and accurate map! Personally, I carry everything with me. Although I'm a computer guy, I still don't 100% trust technology with such things. Why? Because Murphy's law is always present, and technology can fail.
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ljubitelj gora25. 01. 2011 17:09:24
My personal opinion on these devices:

I was today at Garmin's headquarters in Kranj and handheld GPS hiking navigation didn't impress me at all. I still prefer a map over playing with this device.

Similarly, the Garmin 405 GPS watch didn't impress me either.


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GričarA26. 01. 2011 10:01:54
For the phone I have OruxMaps, then Kompas, Mobile Maps 10, something for altitude and more can be found.
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zmp226. 01. 2011 17:49:31
I completely agree with Spetovarjer, it's just that I swear by everything similar to OziExplorer (for hiking) and TomTom for road navigation.
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JusAvgustin26. 01. 2011 21:05:45
I swear by old school! map and compass, good sense of orientation, spatial coordination... whoever can't find their way in the mountains with that, no "cool" GPS will help them either. I agree that Garmins and other devices are indispensable in the army, but everyone should MASTER the basics of orientation, map orientation, determining azimuth, and using a compass before buying any of that!
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Gorazd G26. 01. 2011 21:08:06
Juš, I completely agree with you. mežikanje
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zmp228. 01. 2011 06:44:47
I also completely agree with "old school". GPS is just an additional tool. But it really came in handy for me once, thick fog like hell (up to 10m visibility), returning from Planjava towards KS, I reach a wall where the path runs out. I look at the GPS and see I'm about 50 elevation meters above the path, although I'd swear I was lower. Ok, I could go back to the markers, but on pathless terrain that doesn't work. Knowing where I am at every moment is priceless, the rest is irrelevant. If that unfortunate couple who got lost last year on the slopes between Repov kot and Žmavcarji had known where they were at a certain moment, that situation would probably have turned out differently.
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wolphgang28. 01. 2011 17:02:46
zmp2: sorry, but by writing "old school" you've proven you're not old school, because otherwise you wouldn't use English, but at most German. that's all about it
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Marky13. 12. 2011 09:59:13
Refreshing the topic a bit nasmeh

Given that there are quite a few GPS devices on the shelves I'm curious which ones you recommend (well, Garmin devices). I'm deciding on buying one from the list below. Please share your experiences and suggestions:
-GPSMAP 62
-GPSMAP 62s
-GPSMAP 78S
-Oregon 550
-Montana 600

Or you can suggest some to me.

Thanks in advance for the answers nasmeh
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matejs13. 12. 2011 10:32:11
I have oregon 450 and it's a very good thing...loaded TOPO AND ADRIA route map and it performs excellently...in hills,on road and at orienteering competitions...at competitions though I need several pairs of batteries with me... nasmeh
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