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| urbancek17. 12. 2013 20:00:42 |
Such things shake me a bit too... What can I do, I like animals. Life up there is like that... In mountains similar story can happen to us humans quickly. One moment you're there, next it can be your end. In mountains not always everything in our hands .
I think it's evident from photo itself, that patch he stepped on was icy, so "špegu" in local terms. Even today around 2500m (few km as the crow flies away ) quite some iced spots, where no ibex hoof holds . When such mass once slips, hard to stop.
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| lynx17. 12. 2013 20:07:35 |
Well, let someone else say winter mountain trips without full winter gear.
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| ajda17. 12. 2013 20:09:39 |
No stones heard, penultimate pic looks like slipped to me. What do you know what happened, meteorologist said first time sees ibex go up here.
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| mukica17. 12. 2013 20:12:39 |
Sad to see pictures of the unfortunate ibex, it was probably even sadder to observe it... it shook me too... Ajda, maybe we two met yesterday and chatted a bit above Prgarca...
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| IgorZlodej17. 12. 2013 20:17:07 |
"As I see from the pictures, the path to Triglav is really a proper walking variant, already Skuta after the ascent requires much more".
Excellent observation @viharnik, you know almost everything anyway. I hope, very much hope, that no one takes your nonsense as holy truth and ends up like this ibex. Think a bit before you write something.
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| ajda17. 12. 2013 20:19:13 |
Yeah probably, on the way to Kredarica I was wondering if it was you or not. In the evening after your post I saw it was really you
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| viharnik17. 12. 2013 20:33:41 |
Thief, I don't know why you then lecture that there is no ice in the mountains, since now Čedca and Sinji slap are already being climbed by those who master something in the mountains.
For Triglav, the ascent question is conditioned by only two factors, either higher temperatures or new snow, sometimes verglas.
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| mukica17. 12. 2013 20:34:41 |
Nice, I was thinking too.. another one who likes to wander alone for the soul.. well, we (almost) know each other..
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| Becar17. 12. 2013 21:01:18 |
Very sad story. Maybe it was fleeing from people who can't restrain their tasteless behavior anywhere. Not even on the forum.
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| panda17. 12. 2013 21:39:24 |
Two goats keep "gorging" themselves. Unbelievable, never enough for them.
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| JusAvgustin18. 12. 2013 05:45:44 |
Already the fact that these pictures are up is sick, and ice up and down!
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| B.Smart18. 12. 2013 08:22:53 |
I think it's right that these pictures are posted, as they show facts and one real event. The lesson is that even if you're as experienced as the ibex, you can quickly end your path in the mountains. I certainly pondered the story of the unfortunate one and if that makes some hiker's step more cautious, the story has achieved its purpose.
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| Janez Seliškar18. 12. 2013 08:34:39 |
I agree with you B.Smart. This is also part of life.
A few years ago a hiker slipped here, and there was no discussion or moralizing. Just another accident in the statistics and pain for the relatives.
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| peter218. 12. 2013 11:32:53 |
I would still take the sad story as a serious warning. Whether it was ice or not.
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| otiv18. 12. 2013 12:16:46 |
Life intertwines with death,
every day we wish for a happy promise.
But cruel reality also happens,
when sadness floods our faces.
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| ajda18. 12. 2013 15:45:03 |
JusAvgustin, have you never watched any documentary about the animal world in the mountains. These animals are always walking a thin line between life and death. That's exactly why people admire them so much.
There's nothing wrong if it shakes a person, it shook me too. But you don't need to write that the post is sick. Even if I write something every day, I won't manage to write as many stupid things as you already have.
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| viharnik18. 12. 2013 20:02:03 |
I see nothing controversial in this post, it was just a nice coincidence of observing a mountain animal. The unfortunate case with the ibex is cruel, but a real example as a lesson especially for those mountaineers who go into snowy mountains without winter gear, relying only on hiking poles or not even that. On the backpack they usually carry ice axe and crampons just for decoration. In the mountains, only a second of carelessness plays a role, especially now when ice is often covered, drifted, unstable slabs that are melting etc. Death is a natural process and counts down daily for all of us from our birth. There is no end, there is judgment and placement of the soul where it deserves its place in the cosmos of developmental spiritual dimensions.
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| strelec195418. 12. 2013 21:04:23 |
ajda, the ibex could have been sick, maybe blind which is not so rare and probably that's why it ended up more or less right on the via ferrata where the firm track suited it. Then unfortunately a sad end.
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| ajda18. 12. 2013 21:30:05 |
Yes strelec1954 we also talked about that later up at the hut, that it could be some disease as the cause.
Now in December and January these animals also mate and chase each other. This one was alone, but you don't know what happened to it before. There can be a whole bunch of causes.
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| JusAvgustin19. 12. 2013 06:08:49 |
Next time when you think, better choose another option, just like most of us here should sometimes be quiet. But you simply can't, right... I apologize for the inappropriate expression: sick, maybe inappropriate fits better, at least the last picture.
As an individual I would never post the last picture. Picture of a dead animal. But if the picture is taken as a sign of respect for the mighty animal then... Nice horns
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