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| viharnik10. 08. 2016 19:26:04 |
Skalaši used to lock it, now it's open to everyone
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| darinka410. 08. 2016 19:44:22 |
How will you get inside if it's locked?''
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| miri10. 08. 2016 19:58:03 |
@darinka, you knock and wait
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| darinka410. 08. 2016 20:19:00 |
Yeah, maybe in the other world, if St. Peter opens.
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| grega_z_brega10. 08. 2016 20:35:19 |
Not even one more time for you, darinka 
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| ločanka10. 08. 2016 20:45:48 |
Darinka, in the meantime while you're waiting, give another riddle
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| mikipi10. 08. 2016 23:21:22 |
Here, this is how it'll probably be sometime at the top of Kanin, we'll easily wave across
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| Tadeja796. 09. 2016 12:39:37 |
New bivouac on Kanin with funny shapes, as it appears, is standing. Maybe someone knows if it's possible to sleep in it already?
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| ljubitelj gora6. 09. 2016 12:47:46 |
Bivouac isn't a hut and isn't meant for planned sleeping. Bivouacs are for emergency exit, but what can we do, neither hikers nor alpinists follow that.
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| Macesna6. 09. 2016 13:00:22 |
Bivouacs were built to more easily develop a certain area for climbing - i.e., they were meant for planned sleeping.
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| Tadeja796. 09. 2016 13:01:48 |
That someone would go to this wind-exposed bivouac for emergency exit is hard to believe.
Ski slopes, gondola stations, inns and all that goes with them are just a stone's throw away, location terribly unfortunate. Same as the hut that stands empty - empty.
For any "bivouacking" it's still useful to know if the newly built bivouac is just a monument to the builders or if one can also sleep in it? Whether "necessary" or a bit less necessary...
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| lino6. 09. 2016 13:24:18 |
Tadeja79, you're probably a bit too pessimistic. Surely the choice of suitable location and necessity of the facility were carefully considered and planned. PZS probably doesn't have so much money to throw it deliberately out the window.
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| jax6. 09. 2016 13:49:40 |
@Macesna
Exactly so. That about bivouacs as emergency shelter is such a myth that repeats non-stop. Yes, there are certain exceptions, like Vallot under Mont Blanc, but in general it's exactly as you wrote. Bivouacs were meant for easier multi-day tours, especially climbing. The rest is just bonus.
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| dprapr6. 09. 2016 14:15:42 |
I don't know why they would install them in our mountains at all then if they were only meant for emergency descent. Emergency descent is "straight to the valley".
With the weather forecast available nowadays, tours can be well planned and "emergency descent" is really needed very rarely. Bivouacs are welcome mainly where there are long approaches without huts to walls and ridges.
But that some, mainly foreigners, spend several nights in a row in them, that's a problem solvable with a key in the valley. Like under Špik.
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| Tadeja796. 09. 2016 14:16:17 |
@lino I'm not pessimistic at all, I'm following everything from a distance, but probably you missed the start of this post, where expert Mr. Igor Zlodej writes about completely unsuitable location and that they don't even know how the bivouac ended up there in the end, as nobody needs it there.
And exactly PZS had nothing to do with it, as it is not the project initiator, as the post also writes.
So once again the question, if maybe someone knows - is it possible to overnight in the new bivouac on Kanin or is it closed to the public?
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| viharnik6. 09. 2016 14:55:22 |
Good narrow bivouac design, so that deep snow will be blown away around the bivouac so quickly and high placement of window sills above the rocky cut. All bivouacs are of the open type, if private, that's another story.
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| lijaneja6. 09. 2016 16:47:57 |
Yes, and nicely blended with the environment, same color as the rocks, so you hardly spot it on a nice day, let alone in bad conditions when you really need shelter. Italians are more practical here. We play environmentalists, aesthetes...
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| darinka46. 09. 2016 17:12:25 |
Bivouac placed below almost the summit of Antelao is semicircular in shape and made of sheet metal. And on the path around Grauzaria they placed a similar bivouac, even though the mountain barely reaches just over 2000 m.
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| darinka46. 09. 2016 21:04:11 |
I'm wondering when they placed the bivouac on the path to Grauzaria. Maybe the author of Carnic Wanderings Andrej Stritar knows. I went off topic, sorry, because this isn't the theme?
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| BT886. 09. 2016 21:47:11 |
Yeah, D.P.S has some kind of woodshed I slept in a few years ago just unexpectedly a couple of yogis and girls it was full too because the iron door below was just hooked. Let Igor say if there's still possibility.
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