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| felix7. 07. 2022 11:54:41 |
A few years ago I did this. First day from Zadnjica to Dolič and to Mišeljski konec and back to Dolič - overnight. Second day to Kanjavec, Teme and Poprovec, then to Prehodavci and to Zadnjica. No problem with orientation to Mišeljski konec, turn-off visible from Dolič - Hribarice path.
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| A.D.K.5. 08. 2022 16:12:53 |
A few years ago my wife and I had quite some trouble following the path, as the markers were completely faded. This time completely without problems since the markings were recently renewed. Thanks to the good people that the paths to Kanjavec are nicely marked again. 
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| brett12. 08. 2022 10:32:25 |
Question for those who went to Kanjavec (or Prehodavci) from planina Blato:
what is the approximate timetable to pass Vrata (2192m) crossing the ridge between Za Kopico valley and the valley of the seven lakes? So ridge Tičaric, Kopice and Zelnaric. Without ascent to the mentioned peaks. Since the mentioned option is nowhere presented as a path to K. (or P.).
You can take Dedno polje as starting point for timetable, where is the junction to Za Kopico valley (there timetable to Vrata 2:30h). So: how much from Dedno polje to Vrata along the mentioned ridge.
TNX!
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 12:21:07 |
How does he mean along the ridge, without ascent to peaks??
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| Enka12. 08. 2022 12:47:36 |
The marked path of course doesn't go over the peaks. Exception is, I think, Zelnarica. The question is completely in place.
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 12:57:33 |
"Enka", read the question once more:
"So, the ridge of Tičaric, Kopice and Zelnaric. Without ascent to the mentioned peaks.", then comment!!
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| blazzm12. 08. 2022 13:40:07 |
The ridge is easy and progresses normally. Roughly about an hour more.
As Enka says, the question is completely understandable. But all peaks are really close and worth it up there. The farthest is 5 min to Kopica.
Regards
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 13:51:50 |
"blazzm", obviously you also don't know what a ridge is.
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| brett12. 08. 2022 14:16:44 |
Oops we're "pedantic"
Now unfortunately I can't edit the post back and put ridge in quotes: "ridge". For me everything that runs longitudinally above two valleys is a ridge. For example, Košuta ridge in Karavanke or Lower Bohinj mountains. You walk on the ridge and it's not necessary to step on the peak(s) of that ridge... but a bit below them left or right.
How would you call that stretch between Štapci and Vrata?
It's about the planned tour: p. Blato - V. Zelnarica - Kanjavec - Prehodavci - hut at Triglav Lakes - p. Blato; one day.
And I'm calculating if the timetable works out to take it via this "ridge" or via Za Kopico valley and at Vrata turn left (sign 30min to Zelnarica) to Zelnarica then Kanjavec etc. If it's really 1 to 1.5h then no panic, otherwise... No desire for rushing and clock-watching, but to enjoy.
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| tinky12. 08. 2022 15:11:51 |
Janez, only you know everything, and stick your nose everywhere.
Hribi.net hasn't been like it was years ago for a long time. Shame, only arguing.
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 15:23:14 |
"tinky", there's no one on this planet who knows everything. Of course I try my best to educate myself. That someone can't distinguish slope from ridge is really sad. Enjoy on your paths and report about it!
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| blazzm12. 08. 2022 15:54:46 |
Look at the path on the map and layers.
Most of the path runs along the ridge and there's no need to put it in quotes. The path also crosses the slopes of little and big Tičarica and Kopica. So, the next one who asks about this path, make sure all forum users are satisfied.
Have a nice day.
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| brett12. 08. 2022 16:03:08 |
Exactly right blazzm!
What you marked is a ridge for me, because the path can partially rise-fall vertically, but basically runs "horizontally". Slope is for me a vertical distance from point A to B. Slope basically goes up(down), with intermediate horizontal passages.
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| redbull12. 08. 2022 16:14:01 |
Now in this new era new users of this portal are arriving, thank God that at least something is happening. But it's going in the wrong direction. Similar to saying I crossed the slope from V.Rokav over the cigars to Škrlatica. New portal users surely don't understand what I'm saying. 
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| julius12. 08. 2022 16:26:20 |
Well in practice it's a bit different.
From Štapc the path rises under Mala Tičarica. Here is option to ascend it, but you return back to the branch for Mala Tičarica. Continue under Velika Tičarica to the pathless branch for Velika Tičarica. If you climb it, you must return to that branch. Further ahead on grassy slope you rise under Kopica, bypass it and start rising to Mala Zelnarica. A little below the summit you have option to leave path and left ascend to Kopica. Again you must return to place where you left path. Follows short ascent to Mala Zelnarica and descent from it to Vratca.
Take your time and look at it in person.
GRZS has lots of work because of people going to mountains by GPS. So better ask old experienced mountaineers by old military saying "Read the map, ask the farmer"!
This path is very nice and much less visited than path in valley behind Kopica.
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 16:32:38 |
"julius" excellent! I hope now the predecessors understand it's not a ridge path, but a slope path!
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 16:32:42 |
"julius" excellent! I hope now the predecessors understand it's not a ridge path, but a slope path!
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| Enka12. 08. 2022 17:04:06 |
Brett was actually asking only about the timing to Kanjavec - whether to choose this path past Tičaricas and Kopica or the better (shorter) path Za Kopico. He got only one useful answer amid all the wisdom developed here. I say
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| Janez Seliškar12. 08. 2022 17:27:53 |
I hope now he knows the difference between slope and ridge.
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| brett12. 08. 2022 18:19:52 |
Exactly so, Enka. I know branches go to all five peaks of this slope ("ridge"). Might be useful to someone.
Since I've been to M. Tičarica already, V. T. doesn't interest me, would visit Kopica if I decide for crossing, skip M. Z. and visit V. Z. But as mentioned, main goal Kanjavec and secondary Prehodavci, so no "detour" over this slope if it takes too much time. Rather Za Kopico and jump to Zelnarica.
Three years ago went to Kanjavec (start 6am) via valley Za Kopico, took 4:15h to summit then back via valley of sevens without Prehodavci visit arrived at start 16h; if add now this slope (with Kopica and Z.) + Prehodavci worry not back before 20h.
Plan start 5:30am.
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