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| ljubitelj gora31. 07. 2012 09:13:57 |
@joste, well said, check before the tour and everything goes easier, I save full desc + pics on digitalc, always map too but on the tour no need to check digitalc. On one side good to take someone who knows path! Been to Kukova, Škrnatarica, Dovški Križ, Veliki Oltar, MMP, Špik (winter), etc so Martuljek rocks, try next from Gozd Martuljek to Sp. Zg. falls bivouac then PP path to Vršič... paths on hribi.net.
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| Janez Seliškar31. 07. 2012 09:15:30 |
"joste", if you two know only one path to Kukova Spica, some know more!
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| joste31. 07. 2012 09:29:09 |
@macesen: that's also a variant, most of the time we saw each other anyway since usual path has open view back - hence conclusion.
@LG: thanks for tips no worry I'll go there again 
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| ljubitelj gora31. 07. 2012 13:49:44 |
@joste go go to those areas, Martuljek spots really nice esp around falls, bivouacs on path, nice trails, some demanding secured paths, some only to bivouac or view Široka peč, VO, VMP, MMP etc.
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| Mrki25. 10. 2012 18:08:48 |
Current conditions for Kukova Spica ascent ideal. But ...... tomorrow all different!
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| Arafat7613. 11. 2012 20:38:26 |
Has anyone hiked around Kukova špica in the last few days, or at least knows the conditions? Thanks for the replies.
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| ljubitelj gora19. 05. 2013 16:45:17 |
Started at 6:00, weather was still fine, path through the forest, crossing Črlovca slide, no winter gear needed, further two snow patches no issue. Higher up put on crampons, ice axe in hand, helmet, winter boots and climbed directly up the left side. On the saddle could remove crampons and stow ice axe, from saddle onwards dry. Some light rain, don't stay long at the top, descend. After saddle some self-arrest practice with ice axe, then fast boot-skiing on snow back to dry path, more rain there. Tour done quickly, good 4 hours. Then Gozd Martuljek to Kurji vrh (PP path left, return normal path), occasional light rain not constant, on return 15 min before start thunder and rain, arrived at car soaked.
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| otiv19. 05. 2013 17:10:53 |
Congrats LG!
Nice tour, weather tricked you a bit. The lilac flower is called opposite-leaved rockcress, that one caught my eye first. Nice!
Lp
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| janez.novak19. 05. 2013 21:27:31 |
Something I'd like to ask LG. Last year I was on KŠ, now interested in Škrnatarica. If I've read correctly on GAEA+, after crossing Veliki Črlovec you cross horizontally another 3 scree fields, after the fourth (height cca 1540 m) straight up. Up to height cca 2200 m same path for Škrnatarica and KŠ, then turn left across scree to 2300 m, then up gully or chute good 100 m (steepness similar to scree below Mala Mojstrovka or to Jalovčev ozebnik). Tell me if this description is correct or if I'm wrong. May is the right time for KŠ and Škrnatarica.
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| ljubitelj gora20. 05. 2013 21:19:01 |
I add that one can make a nice tour Črlovec-Kukova špica-Sleme and back to Mojstrana; it's long for tahitre but not difficult, unmarked path. For those more skilled: Črlovec-Kukova špica-Škrnatarica along the ridge to Dovški križ, then back past bivouac and to the valley. There are various other approaches but they are harder.
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| GITA20. 05. 2013 22:18:29 |
@ljubitelj gora, I don't know if you personally already have "under the roof" the traverse Sleme – Kukova špica (or vice versa). Given that you write that (quote) "it's long for tahitre but not difficult unmarked path", I'd conclude yes. But that's not so important. Personally this traverse is unknown to me, but I have in memory this nice photo report: https://picasaweb.google.com/113805105178377351223/GrebenskoPrecenjeVrtaskoSlemeKukovaSpica01082012#
I don't know Jovana personally but from his documented tours I count him among more experienced (occasional) contributors to this portal and trust his assessment. And his assessment is quite far from your "not difficult"...
P.S. Comment and link are intended exclusively so that no one from "those fast" but less experienced relies on the traverse not being difficult and tackles it "left-handed"... No hard feelings.
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| Keko20. 05. 2013 22:49:30 |
Looking at pictures from the link I'd warn about the abseil done on one single old rusty Jeseničan, which during descent is even loaded so that it pulls it out. For myself I can claim that in this case I'd rely more on own legs and arms and slow and careful downclimbing than entrust my life to this peg.
Although it may have already held quite a few abseils, you never know when it might fail. Winter frost can do its thing and loosen the peg in the crack and for someone it can end badly.
So not to do injustice to Jovan, he probably checked well that the peg really holds.
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| ljubitelj gora20. 05. 2013 23:11:56 |
@GITA: Under the picture I previously added details but apparently accidentally deleted them; about this ridge traverse I've also already heard/read.
Wanted to say: after ascent to Kukova špica need to return to fork "kuk" there right on easy path to Sleme.
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| JusAvgustin21. 05. 2013 05:44:50 |
Better not to advise at all, least of all tours whose difficulty exceeds your limits (both in mental and physical sense).
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| Branee21. 05. 2013 06:20:54 |
It looks simpler with a finger on the map 
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| ljubitelj gora21. 05. 2013 08:37:27 |
Thanks @otiv. Juš/Branee, go to the sandbox.
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| dprapr21. 05. 2013 08:58:54 |
LG, the problem is that some of us understood what you wanted to say, but many others with this post you could mislead and put in danger.
I don't know why offense - if you share advice you must be prepared to accept them too!
Regards
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| ljubitelj gora21. 05. 2013 10:17:38 |
No need for kindergarten debate since Gita already corrected me, I don't have edit function. I advise against ascent to Kuk's Peak for those not skilled in unmarked paths and pathless terrain. Cairns up there are down since last winter. Take someone with you who knows the "path" !!! Whoever relies on forum advice and follows it 100% better not go and pick an easier other marked path if not sure about this goal.
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