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turbo19. 08. 2022 21:30:42
Hm, what about Poliški Špik, seems you overlooked that zavijanje z očmi
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panoramik19. 08. 2022 21:36:28
What about Bojec?
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turbo20. 08. 2022 08:57:18
Oh, Silvo, what a disappointment zadrega You're so careful about Montaž, sorry, Poliški špik, ouch, I meant Špik nad Policami, but in the contribution for Gore-ljudje you were so careless that you wrote NEVEJSKI PREVAL. Nevejski preval jezen zmeden

https://www.gore-ljudje.si/Kategorije/Novosti/%c5%a1pik-nad-policami

Don't you know that the saddle has Slovenian name Na Žlebeh cool
By the way, you drive there through Fusine and Valromana and past Tarvisio, both settlements have Slovenian names Bela Peč and Trbiž, but on the signs marking the start and end of the settlement there is no Slovenian name. It should be, because they are bilingual places, after all a bit further from Trbiž towards Tolmezzo, on the signs marking the settlement, you can nicely see the Slovenian name for Šenkatrijo and Lužnice. Maybe someone should be informed about Trbiž and Bela Peč too, after all also about the saddle Na Žlebeh, what do you think zavijanje z očmi
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palček plezalček20. 08. 2022 10:44:36
In the mentioned contribution on the 'gore-ljudje' site, by consistently following Tuma, instead of Nabojs it could say Nabojec and instead of Jôf dei Disteis (not Jof dei Disters) Vrh Strmali, since Tuma records the peak as most now name the saddle: Forc. dei Disteis / Vrh Strmali.

Also Viš would sound more harmonious to some Slovenian ear when naming Višnja Gora, to German ear Wischberg would be more pleasing and to Friulian Jôf Fuart.

And surely there is someone who can comment that the hill between Žrd and Vrh Krnice is not Grubje, but Vrh Grubje (groblja).

Pecol according to mention by J. Seliškar, summarizing Tuma, should be replaced by Montaž or even better, as Thuma further explains: "Slovenes from Carinthia once grazed here and named the pasture after the castle lords von Bramberg-Pramperki."

According to Tuma on the naming Na/V Žlebeh: at 1520 m is Cregnedul with cheese dairy, below it saddle 1195 m and pasture 1166 m Nevea, Slovenian: V Žlebeh, according to document from 1582 also Slips or Glača.

On the second highest in the Julians after the initially listed name variants: "Špik nad Policami or Poliški Špik or Bojec, Jôf del Montaž, Bramkofel," adds: "Dr. Kugy's Jôf del Montasio is not known among Friulians, but only Jôf del Montaž, with hard Friulian ž." After mentioning the naming of the mountain by Hacquet, Findenegg and Kugy, the thought concludes with: "All these names are touristic, although appropriate."
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silvo195220. 08. 2022 16:12:39
Very nice that you taught me about the names. Thanks. For naming I used the map and the names written on it and thus overlooked the nice Slovenian name of the saddle Na Žlebeh as well as for Vrh Strmali (is that the peak on the left viewed from pasture Pecol and/or the saddle between the peak and Špik nad Policami)...
On the map among others it says Sella Nevea, Nevejski preval and V Žlebeh.

Reply to Turbo: Is it carelessness if I use Nevejski preval as written on the map and not V Žlebeh (also on the map) or Na Žlebeh, which would probably also make sense. Otherwise everyone is the blacksmith of their own fortune, isn't it?
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mikkeni26. 10. 2022 14:46:37
Has anyone been to Montaz these days? Conditions, given the thaw that's coming? nasmeh
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coffee27. 10. 2022 18:32:49
I was today above the valley of Beli potok. Nowhere was there any trace of snow.
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mikkeni30. 10. 2022 11:36:07
I was also there yesterday on Montaz. Starting point from Pecol, then classic to the top, and then extension via ferrata Leva to Spik Hude Police - perfect day. More at:

http://ma-uc.blogspot.com/2022/10/montaz-in-spik-hude-police.html
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MANGRT2. 07. 2023 19:05:08
At the right time on the summit for the east. Snow patches are slowly receding and access is already almost everywhere without crampons.
But it must be emphasized that with the new ladder they changed the access. Even the entry into the wall is elsewhere, ladder length somewhat shorter and leads more to the left. Further only cables and pegs, which are placed very steeply in places. Personally I liked the old PIPANOVA better than this now.
never late1
See you next time2
no frost3
new ladder before the old entrance into the wall4
almost vertical5
View back6
old entrance under the ladder7
left along the wall8
under the new they left the old9
somewhere in the middle, view back10
in between it is possible to step left or right to make way for the faster ones11
end of ladder and new route to the left12
at top of ladder the old one went further13
vertical14
nice height15
still vertical and to the left16
steep slopes aplenty17
left remains of pegs from old ladder18
a bit gentler19
then vertical again and arrival at old path20
nice memories21
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SabinaMuminovic11. 08. 2023 12:01:42
Hello.
Does anyone know first-hand (or can direct me where I could check) if the path to Montaz was affected by recent floods or is it safe to visit?

Thank you very much for the help! nasmeh
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jturk11. 08. 2023 14:11:01
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jax11. 08. 2023 14:17:11
They are not closed. Personally I haven't been up there, but I can tell that nothing special happened in this end. I think it should be normal.
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Trobec11. 08. 2023 14:49:02
There were no floods there. Nothing special for Nabojs... Montaž is the neighbor.
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sim11111. 08. 2023 21:25:31
I was on Montažu on Tuesday 8.8. up the Findenegg gully, down the Pipan ladder, which is new, wider and more stable than the previous one. The path is safe for visiting.
Old and new ladder.1
Lower, fixed part of the ladder.2
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Kafetarca12. 08. 2023 09:29:09
Ojoj that old ladder looks really poor against the new one. velik nasmeh
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garmont12. 08. 2023 20:59:42
Was there today. mežikanje
Starting point and path completely OK. Lojtra is better, but the cables above it are quite vertical. This part is more exposed than before the renovation.
Regards
Morning at Pecol.1
Observer…2
Ridge3
The views were great today.4
Descent… slowly.5
Excellent scree, worth using.6
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Kafetarca31. 08. 2023 14:13:24
Does anyone know how much walking the loop Pecol-Montaž-Cima di terrarosa-Pecol would take?

From the map I see the path is possible, but can't imagine the timetable at all.
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Janez Seliškar31. 08. 2023 14:36:49
Everything is nicely described in the Julijske Alpe guidebook.
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Kafetarca31. 08. 2023 14:54:08
Thanks Janez for the direction, I don't have the guidebook, that's why I'm asking on the forum if someone has already done this and has an approximate timetable.
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Janez Seliškar31. 08. 2023 15:06:51
Quickly to buy and you'll plan tours easier:https://planinskatrgovina.pzs.si/product/julijske-alpe-zahodno-od-soce-in-pisnice

Otherwise it's a nice full-day tour, consisting of three sections: Špik nad Policami (Montaž), Elena and Augusto Leva Path and Špik Hude Police (on descent).
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