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| ljubitelj gora13. 12. 2016 09:44:55 |
Between 10 and 11.12.2016 three fatal accidents happened in the mountains. Slip of an experienced doctor on Olševa, slip of an 18-year-old on Srednja Ponca, loss of life of a mountaineer in the wall of Škrlatice.
May they rest in peace.
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| Daaam13. 12. 2016 10:05:04 |
Everything nice and right regarding the wishes, but why open a thread about it? ...so that there will be full speculation about the causes? or shall we write R.I.P. below (because it's so trendy now?)
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| gj13. 12. 2016 14:02:42 |
Last Thursday I wrote or added an article under conditions about the accident in Visoka Martuljška Ponca, as a warning that not everything is so easy in the hills at this time. Of course some smart guys immediately found something to close, I don't know what. I bit my finger so I wouldn't comment further. But I want to say, if just one person because of this article thought about it, stayed home and indirectly is alive, it's worth it that some opening remains closed. Nice greeting, good luck.
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| lino13. 12. 2016 15:13:47 |
Gj, in the mountains it's similar to roads. Warnings are never too much. Regards
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| MitjaBelak13. 12. 2016 17:48:25 |
Accidents have happened, are happening and will happen in the future too. You can't avoid that anywhere, unfortunately. Personally I always like to read such a notice, whether for roads, for mountains or anywhere else. For some it's welcome, for others maybe annoying and unimportant. The purpose of such informing is always positive. Safe steps to all further. Regards
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| MANGRT16. 12. 2016 18:57:35 |
I really don't understand this feat. If they reached the ridge below the summit with proper gear, why then down to the valley by transport?
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| Smetar16. 12. 2016 20:09:01 |
Probably inadequate psychophysical preparation was to blame...
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| pikica123. 10. 2017 22:52:29 |
Accidents in the mountains
22.10.2017 21:42
KRANJSKA GORA
At 21.40 on 22.10.2017, three young Hungarians headed to Triglav and got caught in a snowstorm at around 2,100 meters on the upper Prag. In the storm and fresh snow, they couldn't find the way back to the valley. Rescuers from GRS Mojstrana carried the exhausted, weakened, and frozen hikers in tough winter conditions during the night hours to Triglavski dom na Kredarici, where they cared for them, changed their clothes, and warmed them. Due to unfavorable weather conditions, it was not possible to transport the hikers by helicopter to the valley during the day, and likewise, the hikers due to exhaustion were not able to descend to the valley on their own. They remained in the care of the mountain rescuer from GRS Bohinj - the meteorologist at Triglavski dom na Kredarici. The rescue will continue during tomorrow, when an improvement in the weather is forecast. They will be transported to the valley by helicopter of the Slovenian Army. The police and the Hungarian Embassy were informed about the incident.
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| grega_z_brega23. 10. 2017 23:04:57 |
Now they're waiting for the wind to stop blowing.
I hope they have tarock cards.
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| MountaineerX24. 10. 2017 08:13:28 |
Nothing, sneakers on feet and 1L water with you and no accidents will happen! Haha 
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| miri24. 10. 2017 08:15:26 |
It's like in traffic. Thousands drive every day towards some goal, but not everyone reaches it. Talking about stupidity just like that is not appropriate.
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| djimuzl24. 10. 2017 09:36:38 |
And precisely in traffic, you can see nicely how many people don't follow the rules or regulations - largely those for which a penalty is foreseen for violation.
Rules or regulations for behavior in the mountains (or hiking) don't exist, at least not in the sense that someone would be punished for not following them. There are only tips shared by numerous institutions etc., like PZS, police, mountaineering associations...
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| Janezs24. 10. 2017 17:28:20 |
Yeah, it's true, some people don't know how to live without regulations. Not all mountaineers are the same, some need a whole day to "crawl" somewhere with all their gear. But there are also those who, without gear, hike half of the Julian Alps or Karawanks in one day. It's just like in traffic. A traffic-light intersection or a modern roundabout. Of course, in the roundabout you need to use your head more, but it's faster.
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| vespuci24. 10. 2017 18:07:27 |
Miri, we precisely need to talk about stupidity here, because the weather forecast the day before was rain and snow in the high mountains across all of Slovenia.
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| jani bele22. 11. 2017 12:04:08 |
I hope the administrator won't hold it against me too much if I do a little advertising here, but I think the book answers many questions posed in this thread.
I wrote a book about dangers in the mountains - Dangerously to the Summits. In it, through stories of people who experienced some danger, witnesses of accidents, mountain rescuers and my own experiences, I tried to depict all the main types of dangers we can encounter on our ascents in the mountains.
The book is already on the shelves.
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| piotr22. 11. 2017 13:51:13 |
Jani, commendable, although this adjective "dangerously" from the title can be understood negatively, as if the mountains are "dangerous". True, the topic deals with dangers that can befall us, so perhaps more appropriately: safer to the summits.
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| dprapr22. 11. 2017 14:04:33 |
Knowledge we usually acquire in youth, but experiences we gather as long as we live.
It's safest to get bad experiences from others, both from experienced and inexperienced ones. And that's exactly what this book offers us.
The author accompanies us in the mountains in all conditions, in all seasons and informs us about accidents and tragic events mainly from recent years. Perhaps that's what touches us the most. When we remember acquaintances whose paths did not end happily, or they did, and made them think, as well as us who read this book.
Definitely a book that every mountain visitor should leaf through. And maybe a few more...
Actually, there is still too little of this literature and the forum, which is from this field, should also advertise it.
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| jani bele22. 11. 2017 14:49:44 |
Piotr
About ways of moving, how more safely to the summits, speaks my first book - To the Summits. It would be a bit strange if I gave this new book the title Safer to the Summits, when the whole book talks about dangers. Mountains certainly are not dangerous by themselves - they become so when we find ourselves there: physically and mentally underprepared, unequipped, inexperienced. And according to GRZS statistics, the journalist gave my interview in Delo a quite correct title: Mountaineering - the most dangerous form of mass recreation.
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