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| jannika4. 07. 2014 22:59:14 |
It seems to me that if it weren't for those few "old-timers" who visit mountains and hills every day and selflessly share it with us, you others would just keep asking about conditions everywhere and walk around even less.
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| SiKT7. 07. 2014 22:44:45 |
Today I climbed Ojstrica from Logarska via Kopinškova. There are still 2 snow patches on the route (at entry and on upper scree). Lower snow patch crossable without issue, upper one fully bypassable. Weather already superb and quite hot. Today's action through the lens: Ojstrica via Kopinškova
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| pelican8. 07. 2014 08:24:50 |
Very nice Keko and SIKT 
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| VanSims17. 07. 2014 20:31:45 |
So via Kopinškova basically without winter gear? What about further to Škarije and over Babe to Planjava? Thanks!
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| redbull17. 07. 2014 21:48:22 |
everything doable without gear, just gotta find it, if snow on marked trail, go below it. Browse forum a bit and you'll see pics,
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| redbull17. 07. 2014 21:53:33 |
how it was Saturday check under topic Stahovica-Ojstrica-Turska. During week don't think many went,
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| VanSims17. 07. 2014 21:56:36 |
Redbull, thanks for info!
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| SunBurned19. 07. 2014 20:22:36 |
The keeper at Koča na Klemenči jami absolutely advises against Kopinškova without winter gear. Snowfield under summit still huge, almost unmelted and sheer. Via Škarje apparently just barely doable, but advises great caution too. So I chose Krofička, attaching pic from top towards both routes to Ojstrica.
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| Zebdi19. 07. 2014 22:16:19 |
Just today rescue somewhere between Škarje and Planjava... slip on snow.
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| SunBurned19. 07. 2014 22:49:04 |
Maybe around 5pm? Since heli was heard. Otherwise yesterday someone went down that upper Kopinškova snowfield despite all gear and skill. Luckily not fatal.
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| redbull20. 07. 2014 07:16:27 |
I trust only Sabina and Tonetu Karničarju among hut keepers, who are every day in mountains in that area where they are (Kočne-Grinta). Most keepers don't even poke their head out the window, no hard feelings, it's true. cheers D
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| Zebdi20. 07. 2014 08:38:05 |
SunBurned, yes.. a bit after four pm. If you were yesterday on Krofička, we probably met 
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| VanSims20. 07. 2014 10:02:06 |
I too talked with the hut keeper at Koča na Klemenči jami. Regarding Ojstrica, it's as SunBurned said, Planjava still full of snow and winter conditions About trusting the hut keeper or not: if he says no, then no. That's how it is for me, others by their own judgment.
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| Bernard Štiglic20. 07. 2014 10:16:02 |
In our mountains every year above an altitude of about 2000 meters until the beginning of August you need to have winter gear with you, because there are still snowfields on the paths. This year due to frequent coolings it will probably be optimal in mid-August. If you are not skilled in using crampons, then have at least an ice axe with you. This of course means for crossing more gentle snowfields, but not at all that one on Kopinškova to Ojstrica.
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| don Sergio20. 07. 2014 12:16:42 |
Yesterday on Ojstrica, up Kopinškova ridge, down Škarje valley. In my PERSONAL experience all passable without winter gear. On Kopinškova under summit that snowfield covers about 15 m of path over scree. Snow at 12 not hard, quite softened, due to steepness I decided to bypass it on the lower side over scree. Careful steps and no problem. Descent through Škarje: 3 snowfields (2 smaller between Ojstrica and Škarje, no issues) and large snowfield (quite southern-facing snow) covers marked path under north face of Ojstrica, about 80 m long. Since slope fairly gentle, I crossed it... with poles no trouble. Everything else on path super and OK.
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| SunBurned20. 07. 2014 12:46:02 |
@all I don't know how much the keeper walks these paths, but surely he has many contacts with regulars and random guests and knows how to advise. It is understandable if he adds a bit to the difficulty, because he doesn't want to be responsible. I am convinced that he means well to everyone, and I hold nothing against him if he "scared" me a little too much; after all, Ojstrica won't run away. It is also necessary to consider that with this heat the conditions improve from day to day and the data from the previous day are practically already outdated.
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| VanSims20. 07. 2014 21:27:31 |
So, opinion of yet another hutkeeper. @don_sergio: Your PERSONAL experience was simply that you didn't slip.
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