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| špik8129. 01. 2020 18:09:14 |
What can I say? Styles are changing, new more modern-oriented generations are coming after us. There was talk about bivouacs under Skuta, Grintavec and on Kotovo sedlo that they don't fit in the mountain environment but if we look back we mostly accepted them well. They get lots of visits and plenty of photos. Just something new, different. Even looking across our homeland's border we see many interesting structures but they don't seem weird to us? Of course because they're abroad. Let's hope for functionality and energy efficiency. Personally it's not the most beautiful to me, but I believe I'll visit it gladly.
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| Daaam29. 01. 2020 18:31:56 |
I'll add my pot to this debate too... To me personally the essence of a hut is the warden and how he "runs" his mission.. Of course many are shaped by P.Society guidelines that time overran long ago, but that's not the issue of this debate. I like our typical huts architecturally but I don't dare claim they are all functional in today's time. These are huts built for far fewer visitors than they get now. And since in principle no new huts are built in the high mountains, I support the idea that like in the case of Okrešelj and Korošica, a hut is built in a more modern version.. They will surely be more functional than the old ones, for the content the responsible ones will have to make an effort.. The shell is one thing, content another.. In no case will the exterior look ever please everyone. Just like there's no most beautiful girl there's no most beautiful hut
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| Daaam29. 01. 2020 18:33:18 |
*replace the word group with shell .d..these phones 
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| jax29. 01. 2020 19:53:33 |
Let's be clear about something. As for our mountain huts, especially in KSA, there has never been any "typical" or traditional architecture. Each hut was a mirror of its time and the vision of those who built it. Yes, e.g. the design of the Czech hut clearly follows the aesthetics of alpine pastures, but that doesn't apply to the neighboring Kranjska hut at all. And we can't say at all that the Czech hut is "better" or "more homely" than the Kranjska one. Similarly, the design of the huts on Kamniško sedlo or the unfortunate Korošica didn't follow alpine pasture examples at all and approached modern trends of the time of construction. Yet they are/were just as pleasant huts that serve their purpose. How well they serve depends more on the warden than on the architecture. Not to mention bivouacs. Everyone mentions only the one under Skuta. But bivouacs, already from the Jesenice Enka onwards, have always been exclusively functionalist designs and didn't model after past constructions in the mountains at all. All of them, not just the one under Skuta.
Ergo, huts have always been different and always a mirror of their time. And in this context, I find the Okrešelj idea completely correct and by no means unnecessary exaggeration with prestige.
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| lijaneja5. 04. 2020 14:48:02 |
Whatever it will be, it will be. Just let the construction start as soon as possible. As tempting as it looked from KS it will never be again.
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| nickolas1618. 05. 2020 21:43:27 |
And who knows if it's already possible without winter gear (controlled) to descend from Kamniško sedlo to Okrešelj?
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| redbull19. 05. 2020 04:18:51 |
Interesting unknown, I hope someone goes there to report the matter
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| bongo19. 05. 2020 07:48:41 |
About 10 days ago it wasn't possible without, snow and ice around 100m below the summit. Don't have fresher info. Good luck
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| lijaneja19. 05. 2020 10:13:31 |
At least take the ice axe, the feeling will be better at least. In my opinion you only have to cross snow twice more. Also the picture from Mrzla gora, 12 days old is no longer relevant, as it was quite warm and quite rainy in this period. But watch out for verglas on rocks, which can be very treacherous early in spring.
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| dRM19. 05. 2020 13:59:18 |
Photographed yesterday from Štajerska rinka, if it helps.
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| nickolas1619. 05. 2020 14:34:12 |
thanks everyone for useful responses
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| zokipoki26. 05. 2020 10:22:29 |
Oh this Okrešelj.
On Sunday I went along my very beloved path to Mrzla gora from Okrešelj. It was nice, solitary, pure enjoyment. While walking thoughts jumped here and there about many things and I wondered several times whether to write this at all or not, whether it's even worth reacting, publicly airing a personal view on something that frankly doesn't concern me... well, after three days of flashes I decided to write here what bothers me.
Already on Saturday I noticed a photo on fb posted by a friend and my first reaction was catastrophe! I don't know, maybe I'm nuts, but I'm convinced for myself that such setups don't belong on the alpine pasture. Okrešelj is not a tavern! I understand capitalism and that you need to earn some money, but still I think this is too much, even more, it looks really ugly. I don't know who set this up and I don't even care. Okrešelj is an excellent starting point, a beautiful cirque that doesn't need excessive commercialization.
Stole the photo from a friend, I didn't take it myself, didn't want to be obvious.
Regards, take care!
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| bbugari126. 05. 2020 10:47:55 |
Unfortunately from the building itself you'll see what a commercial facility is... Korošica too. 
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| MarkoS26. 05. 2020 11:09:01 |
I don't agree. It doesn't remind me of a tavern, if anything I'd say more like a dog playground.  Without the cross of course. Pallets, whose wood is usually durable, are just inventively used in the given conditions and at least there's something to lean your butt on and rest. Isn't that the point?
Anyway this kind of "outdoor tavern gear" in the hills is based on simplicity and durability. Better this than nothing, it won't be permanent anyway.
There used to be lots of visitors at Okrešelj too, but that's how it is. And it's right that in these times they still come and something gets earned, not just in the valley. If you want a beautiful quiet cirque, it's still waiting 200m ahead.
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| turbo26. 05. 2020 11:14:08 |
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| zokipoki26. 05. 2020 11:37:02 |
Tavern on the beach, beach on the tavern, doesn't matter, I wrote what I thought. Everyone sees it their own way.
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| dprapr26. 05. 2020 14:32:28 |
Saw it and went on. Didn't even bother mentioning it.
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| čebejla27. 05. 2020 10:55:38 |
Zokipoki, is the path to Mrzla gora completely dry?
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| zokipoki25. 06. 2020 16:47:01 |
Yesterday afternoon Okrešelj was more or less deserted. The road from Dom planincev onwards is under construction, but we had no access issues. The path itself is without peculiarities. Plenty of water. Regards
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| čebejla25. 06. 2020 22:59:31 |
Hello, I need help gathering information about the return to the valley via Pasje sedlo; mainly I'm interested if there is any technically difficult section on the path?
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