Planned removal of Aljaž Tower from Triglav
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| sonka8. 07. 2009 10:51:08 |
I thought that the PZS leadership couldn't surprise us anymore with bad ideas and sick proposals. But unfortunately, that's not the case. Just as we resisted the ban on the word gornik, we can't stay silent about this incomprehensible idea either. Does a handful of firmly entrenched people at the top of PZS think they can do and make everything? They haven't done anything for the maintenance of the tower. If it weren't for the Friends of Triglav, the tower would be in bad condition. Regarding the proposal that the PZS leadership goes to the museum, I think it's a waste of space there. We'll put more important things in it, worth seeing. Maybe a copy of the tower. The original should stay on Triglav.
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| felix8. 07. 2009 11:43:26 |
I agree with Zalas on everything, I just hope that instead of a copy, a cross won't be placed on the top.
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| geppo8. 07. 2009 12:12:47 |
andymann
you could put both proposals (behind, a bit higher there is another summit marker) - it's hardly visible on this photo!!
Regards
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| sonka8. 07. 2009 12:13:18 |
Felix, I'm very glad that those times are gone when crosses were torn down from the tops of our mountains. Don't worry, there won't be a cross on Triglav, but I'm sure our good, old, but still solid Aljaž Tower will remain.
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| janav8. 07. 2009 12:26:31 |
I'm very sad that I live in a time when crosses on our summits grow like mushrooms after rain . Regarding the Aljaž Tower: let it stay where it is, and put a copy in the museum! Thanks to the Friends of Triglav for everything they've done for the tower!
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| PUHI8. 07. 2009 12:51:22 |
Janav, but the mini Aljaž towers on various summits bother me more than the crosses (Veliki vrh, Mala Ojstrica), I think they are tasteless.
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| Stolar8. 07. 2009 14:07:25 |
I don't know what bothers you so much about the crosses.
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| andrej7678. 07. 2009 15:00:12 |
Well, crosses are really more the domain of the church and I am against the presence of any politics and signs in our high mountains - the church is part of politics anyway. I think we have in our "mountaineering"  history many real "patrons" after whom summits could be named or marked, not meaningless crosses - in the Soča region there are of course lots of monuments and various neglected cemeteries from WWI which of course belong to cultural heritage.
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| andrej7678. 07. 2009 15:04:52 |
If there's no better idea, a summit logbook and stamp are quite sufficient - and precisely these logbooks could be much better, original and nicer than most of them; Julius Kugy would certainly deserve one personally made and placed on Jalovec... 
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| tom66668. 07. 2009 21:16:04 |
who came up with this nonsense?
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| andrej7678. 07. 2009 21:42:26 |
Obviously the "gentlemen" from PZS.
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| Matevž Hace9. 07. 2009 22:03:21 |
nah I'm not gonna remove anything... just don't try it... is this for fat German tourists who can't reach the top??? hope it's just a lame joke...
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| totalcek9. 07. 2009 22:45:15 |
They shouldn't move it much, morons, let them move their fat asses a bit and climb to the top, then they'll get why every aware mountaineer is against their idea.
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| hribolaz10. 07. 2009 11:11:50 |
when do they plan to remove it
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| triglavski10. 07. 2009 12:33:36 |
It is supposed to be next year on the 115th anniversary; the initiative and proposal are already coordinated, as read in the official PZS gazette (PZS Notices 7/8). Helicopter transports are already reserved, and there are several of them: first an expert inspection by a special commission, then expert removal and excavation to find the controversial sealed bottle with the document. Only then the transport of everything to the valley. Quite controversial, especially since some PDs, despite emergency works on huts and high-mountain infrastructure, cannot get a helicopter from the quota determined between MORS and PZS at all. Who gave the proposal and who coordinated it would of course be interesting to know. Obviously, the proposers do not even know the circumstances regarding the protection of this national symbol and probably have not seen it live for a very long time. Maybe that is why they want it closer in the valley, so that they could touch it gratefully again after the past years, but there is a high probability that their hand will burn on the first touch because they have such blasphemous thoughts.
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| naty 111. 07. 2009 16:13:51 |
The original belongs on top, as it has been until now; those who want to see it should go nicely on foot to it, step by step, slowly and deservedly; necktie guys and fine ladies who find it too much to go to the top should pay an entrance fee and be satisfied with a duplicate, because nice things are achieved with effort, not with money; true nonsense.
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| janik11. 07. 2009 16:40:10 |
As far as I know, usually things that have passed go to museums, and then remnants of such times are placed in a museum so that later generations can see a part of the past. But as far as I know, neither Triglav nor Aljaž Tower are part of the past but present, live and real present that is still writing history. If the problem is repainting and renewing the tower once a year at the location where it is now, then announce it and I think that will no longer be a problem. "Imagine a wax dolls museum with originals instead of dolls."
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| monter11. 07. 2009 22:58:44 |
triglavski, bravo, those are words!! janik, I also like your comment; as for the tower renewal, see, it is no problem, because many mountaineers have already done that, ask e.g. triglavski.
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| pištaJL13. 07. 2009 18:08:59 |
The responsibles at PZS are smart, what if next to the tower they moved the last meter or two of the summit and upgraded it in the museum with a cable car. The author of this idea gets a plaque for the biggest idiocy.:
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