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| tisa11. 11. 2010 14:22:35 |
Thank you Tadej, sorry for my hasty reaction.
Best regards
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| IgorZlodej11. 11. 2010 17:05:27 |
I see you were all at home today and had time to philosophize, only viharnik used the day for mountains, and probably someone else, but didn't post. True what prokofjev writes, everything he listed belongs to ZS, but what when there are many who don't know how to look at ZS.
Tisa asks me about level. It is determined by various parameters, also includes quite a lot of statistical data. Regarding the forum based on current conditions in mountains, at least in my opinion it's important to publish as much as possible, as reliable as possible data on conditions, based on real assessments, as well as danger assessment. This especially for winter conditions. Of course descriptions of known or lesser known mountains are welcome, which can be good idea for hiking trip or mountaineering ascent, all that with added pictures, but not "borrowed" ones, can be good basis for basic info. Everything else must be obtained elsewhere, be it courses, group guided trips, literature, experience and good condition. That should be some basic level. Of course it's understandable that everyone started once and then doesn't know much. It's good to be aware of that, because if not, unwanted polemics quickly arise, which is the least that can happen to someone. I hope tisa is satisfied, of course others can add, since I surely forgot a lot. I'd just mention that I wouldn't interfere with editorial policy regarding polls.
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| heinz11. 11. 2010 17:06:09 |
tisa, what you were talking about is "level". Some kind of mountaineering ethics, that's the thing we're sometimes lacking. At least in that direction I understood Igor's measurement. And I agree with that.
To avoid misunderstanding: with what you wrote, everyone (I hope) agrees too.
Good luck!
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| heinz11. 11. 2010 17:07:25 |
Well, I just arrived. The day was nice, ... slowly I'm preparing another new description of the approach to Ajdna from Jesenice.
Regards!
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| tisa11. 11. 2010 18:16:08 |
This time I fully agree with you. Since I'm a beginner on your forum and when I saw the riddle: where the Drava originates, I thought that riddle topics are also included. That's why I started the riddle about the Piran Triglav. I'm sorry that I triggered this wave of discontent and disagreements among us.
Still, I have to agree also with the answers from atoamac, prokofijeva and zebdij.
As for my hikes, I'll post something in the future, but how to send pictures, I still need to learn, because I have quite a collection. Among them also shots that at least I haven't seen anywhere yet and I can't wait for you to add your comments.
Nice regards and good luck to all.
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| bari11. 11. 2010 18:16:48 |
aha, if I understand correctly, according to Igor, if you haven't posted your walk on hribi.net the same day, you weren't in the mountains.
Holy simplicity! 
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| IgorZlodej11. 11. 2010 18:42:19 |
As I understand the "conditions" forum, it's basically meant for describing current conditions. Those of us who go to the mountains more often know that conditions, especially in winter, change daily, sometimes even hourly, and posting conditions after a few days would be pointless in that sense or would come across as "I was there and there", which wouldn't help anyone except as an idea for a trip-ascent. To tell the truth, there are the most of the latter posts and it wouldn't matter if they weren't there at all. That's all about this holy simplicity.
tisa, you have a private message regarding posting pictures.
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| heinz11. 11. 2010 18:47:38 |
No, no, bari! It wasn't meant like that, as bad as you took it-!
Maybe some of us participate too much in other forums, so here we just forget that (at least) desired mountaineering - tolerant soul..
There's probably a bit of difference between - being a mountaineer for one year, or all life.. Also because of that, it's worth thinking tolerantly. ..Young, older, less experienced, more experienced.., athletes and spiritually in love with mountains,.. etc,..etc..
More or less sincere: as anyone, as for anyone. But all of us should hike mainly, or even exclusively for - ourselves.
No holy simplicity here,.. or we all are. Me and you too.
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| bari11. 11. 2010 19:00:53 |
This time I agree with Igor when he wrote:
"Those of us who go to the mountains more often know that conditions, especially in winter, change daily, sometimes even hourly and posting conditions after a few days would be pointless in that sense or would come across as, I was there and there, which wouldn't help anyone except as an idea for a trip-ascent."
So even up-to-date posting of current conditions, which often change very quickly (especially in winter), is relevant only for those going up there the next day, afterwards only as an idea for ascent.
So it's all more self-promotion, enjoying the spotlight, what else??
Any attacking of those who don't post current conditions and pictures and "just" pontificate and solve riddles doesn't seem appropriate to me.
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| viharnik11. 11. 2010 19:50:27 |
I don't know why some of you have to be so unjustly resentful on the forum. Igor like me and many others just likes visiting the mountains. Many could, instead of making empty jokes on the forum, go at least to the nearest hill and do themselves a lot of good. The forum for posting about mountains is right too and it's also very true that conditions in mountains change from hour to hour. I felt that on today's tour too, where the snow was in the morning slightly crusted southern snow, higher up despite higher altitude only light southern snow. But in the end a snow shower happened from the clear sky.
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| bari11. 11. 2010 20:00:16 |
Yes, that's all nice and right, but don't mock those who don't post that and on the forum write something else than how they were on the nearby or a bit more distant hill.
Viharnik, heinz, especially Igor: that's the "point".
And nice regards!
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| viharnik11. 11. 2010 20:35:24 |
Bari, none of us "points", nowhere is it written that you'll be heading to some summit tomorrow and current conditions data from anyone of us on the forum would be very welcome. That's why Tadej and Rok created hribi.net, so those who care about the mountains help each other and properly plan the route (hiking, snowshoeing, skiing, ice climbing, snowboarding, paragliding, cross-country skiing, sledding etc.) Lp
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| tisa11. 11. 2010 21:31:06 |
Please don't laugh at me, because I posted pictures for the first time following Igor's instructions. I was just about to ask him how to delete them (three identical!) but I saw they already appeared, even though I didn't press "upload images" yet.
I hope they can be deleted.
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| Rok11. 11. 2010 23:16:33 |
Hello,
On the right side of each message are the buttons "Images" and "Upload images".
Through both buttons you can upload new images, but you can edit or delete them only via the "Images" button.
To delete an image, click the "Images" button. A new window opens where at the bottom is the list of already uploaded images.
Mark the images you want to delete with a checkbox and click "Save changes".
If you uploaded images via the "Upload images" button, you can edit them only after about 30min after posting.
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| tisa11. 11. 2010 23:33:18 |
Thank you very much, Rok.
And lots of professional successes and new "insights".
Best regards
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| drago4012. 11. 2010 10:02:52 |
Rok,
wouldn't it be the simplest to delete the "upload images" button, because with the "images" button you can upload and delete; then there would be no dilemma if you pressed the wrong button or if you can delete the other identical image.
Personally I think these duplicates appear because the uploaded image doesn't show up for a long time and you think the upload failed so you repeat it, it happened to me too.
lp Drago
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| tisa212. 11. 2010 13:09:30 |
I messed something up again so now I have a partially new name.
I'm interested in what the conditions are like below Triglav, because I'd head to Luknja.
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| smreka12. 11. 2010 18:19:50 |
Tisa, surely you won't go to Luknja in such weather! Wait until the weather improves. I'll go too.
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| tisa12. 11. 2010 19:47:31 |
Okay, I'll wait, just don't decide for the hike only in spring.
Best regards
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