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| capin2. 10. 2009 22:38:56 |
Sure it goes. And when you're already at Pogačnik, I advise you to casually jump to Stenar and Križ and straight along the ridge back to Razor. You'll nicely finish the tour. Then please tell me what you saw along the path. Sorry, but from the tour you'll have as much as if you ran in circles on a stadium all day. The day will be too short for you. If you must go, go via Hanzova gora, via Jubilejna to Mlinarica then back to Vršič, you'll have the whole day something to do. Good luck!
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| misk30. 10. 2009 16:32:10 |
Tomorrow I plan to go to prisojnik through prednje okno. Does anyone have info on current conditions on this path? Thanks
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| triglavski30. 10. 2009 16:54:43 |
I presume there's some snow under the window, and probably still some on the ridge too, given that it's already cooled down quite a bit today, it'll be frozen.
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| Mate0730. 10. 2009 20:02:50 |
But some dare to crawl on such rocks, I don't say I'm afraid of heights, but those collapses
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| misk30. 10. 2009 20:46:30 |
Thanks for the info, triglavski
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| nurmaln30. 10. 2009 20:54:13 |
Triglavski, can one go up without crampons and ice axe or is it already too late?
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| triglavski30. 10. 2009 21:23:24 |
Visiting high mountains at this time without proper gear is quite irresponsible, especially where you have to go to the top from the north side. Sometimes it's enough to cross just a few meters of ice and snow, so it's good to have that stuff with you.
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| lukecpukec15. 06. 2010 19:05:02 |
And who knows what the state of the southern (Slovenian) path to Prisank is? Has snow melted already? Thanks for answers, LP
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| IgorZlodej15. 06. 2010 20:29:15 |
When are you interested for, as far as I see these days aren't exactly the best for mountain visits, end of the week it will probably even snow above 2000 m. Anyway, please someone explain what's the problem if there's still snow in the mountains at this time. There is gear, one can train for it and I really don't know why such questions at all.
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| Gorska rožica15. 06. 2010 20:59:21 |
Snow was still there on Sunday 14.6. and quite a lot, without ice axe and crampons better not go. l.p.
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| viharnik15. 06. 2010 21:18:40 |
Igor, if nothing else at least up there you can wash yourself and refresh with snow. Otherwise when I run into a snowfield I first check if it's undermined-hollow below, then look at the slope and runout further down if there's a possible fall. With ice axe and without crampons I tackle only easier snowfield crossings in mountains.
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| viharnik15. 06. 2010 21:26:05 |
But the most dangerous are steep short snowfields, because if you slip there might be no time to stop on the snow surface, upon further contact with the grassy slope you just roll into the depths. Be careful and Lp.
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| legenda15. 06. 2010 22:47:40 |
Snow in the mountains is a big problem for many. I dare to claim that most hikers go to the mountains in dry conditions because they don't have or even can't afford the necessary gear, don't have proper knowledge and are not trained for moving in snow conditions. So the question by lukecpukec is right on the spot, the answer is far from it. No offense, Igor.
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| panda16. 06. 2010 08:33:46 |
Igor: I think not all have that "luck" to roam the hills in summer and winter and still do a job like you. Not all have so much experience like you, so we are more cautious. Snow is not a challenge for me either, so I prefer to visit hills when there is no snow. So what if the season lasts very short, still I have per year about 20 mountain tours. If someone asks about snow, it is easiest simply to answer how much there is on the path to cross. All the rest is pointless. If someone tells me I need to cross a steep snowfield under Ojstrica because it hasn't "eaten" yet, I'll wait with the tour until August. Nice day to all. 
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| lukecpukec16. 06. 2010 09:13:03 |
First thanks for all (quick) answers. My mountaineering knowledge (and experience) is approximately like that described by legenda and panda... unfortunately I have little experience with winter conditions in mountains so I wouldn't unnecessarily tempt fate. About 14 days ago I drove from Trenta towards Vršič and it seemed to me that there was not much snow anymore and I thought that by today (due to past heat) most of it had melted. Otherwise I planned to go next week, but if up there it is still such a state that an ice axe is needed, I'll rather wait until end of July. Nice day
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| GITA16. 06. 2010 22:05:50 |
Maybe take Igor's comment more as encouragement than ill-intentioned. Why? I myself got basic knowledge of ice axe and crampons use in high school years (with borrowed gear), then loooong nothing regarding using that knowledge and my range long years only ascents in dry conditions. If I look back today – on one side pity for missed opportunities . At some point years ago, I had enough of uncertainty and inquiries about path conditions especially late autumn, spring and early summer. Because with years (and arrival of kids) I too became bigger "cautious one" (which I think for hiking in mountains is more virtue than flaw), mountains called in all seasons, finally decided to buy gear - ice axe and crampons (cost of each separately – if not buying top gear for top ascents – smaller than for good boots, short courses on moving in snow conditions are also many, acquired knowledge must be consolidated by oneself anyway and gain additional experiences). What relief! Today so that I freely and without big limits choose goal, take gear "just in case" (weight negligible) and no more big uncertainties and pondering whether it will go or not. As said – panda, legenda, lukecpukec and others similar – I cannot compare myself with Igor because not "in service in mountains", long years I was just the same as you, once decided to change that and "extend" season over the whole year, and believe me, it pays off. This was just an attempt of well-meaning and encouraging comment from one "former" similar to you...
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| GITA16. 06. 2010 22:28:38 |
Maybe take Igor's comment more as encouragement than ill-intentioned. Why? I myself got basic knowledge of ice axe and crampons use in high school years (with borrowed gear), then loooong nothing regarding using that knowledge and my range was long years only ascents in dry conditions. If I look back today – on one side pity for missed opportunities. At some point years ago, enough uncertainty and inquiries about path conditions especially late autumn, spring and early summer. Because with years (and kids' arrival) I too became a bigger "cautious one" (which I think for hiking in mountains is more a virtue than a flaw), mountains called in all seasons, I finally decided to buy gear - ice axe and crampons (cost of each separately – if not buying top gear for top ascents – smaller than for good boots, short courses on moving in snow conditions are also many, gained knowledge you must anyway practice yourself and gain additional experience). What a relief! Today I can freely and without big limitations choose a goal, take gear "just in case" (weight is negligible) and there are no more big uncertainties and ponderings whether it will be possible or not. As said – panda, legenda, lukecpukec and others similar – I can't compare myself to Igor because I'm not "in the mountain service", for long years I was exactly the same as you, once I decided to change that and "extend" the season all year round, and believe me, it pays off. This was just an attempt at a well-meaning and encouraging comment from one "former" similar to you...
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