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| jedriličar23. 07. 2013 21:40:00 |
@LG - those of yours have all fingers, must be sweaty inside???  And if you need grip on rock, you got feel? Or cut the fingers off?
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| FLEKSARCA23. 07. 2013 22:44:34 |
LG , that's a bit heavy for the slope, I mean thin leather work gloves. I'll look online for a pic too. Anyway, if those you posted are rubberized work gloves, not the "heavy duty" but thin ones, they'd work well too.
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| JusAvgustin24. 07. 2013 05:47:13 |
Agree with Igor, too many so-called experts lately. As for gloves-no I don't use them, nor do I intend to. Nothing beats the feel when you grab a hold with bare hands...
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| heinz24. 07. 2013 08:15:53 |
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| jedriličar24. 07. 2013 10:55:37 |
She doesn't need gloves, has vacuum pumps on her fingers ....
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| ljubitelj gora24. 07. 2013 13:31:14 |
Bought these in Kibuba like in the pic below and they fell apart after three ferratas.
In summer don't forget sunscreen
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| jedriličar24. 07. 2013 13:45:15 |
Buy such ones ....
10 years of professional sailing and 5-6 years of ferrata besides ...
price, real trifle, approx 200 kn 10 years ago
And they don't slip, I guarantee
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| jedriličar24. 07. 2013 14:17:19 |
yes, plain leather ...
yes they absorb water but even those don't slip, tested on ferrata in rain ....
only thing wears out over time on palm parts you grip the cable with, but better than kevlar ones, when you slide down you can't stop ...
but there are cheaper ones, can buy solid leather gloves for ca 15 EUR
and unlike various mason-work ones, these are soft on the hand ...
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| heinz24. 07. 2013 17:00:57 |
No FLEKSARCA, that's me climbing up on K2. 
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| ljubitelj gora25. 07. 2013 00:22:03 |
GRS has plenty of work:
Accidents in mountains - accidents in mountains
At 14.03, a female hiker injured her leg on Kredarica in Kranjska Gora municipality. The duty mountain rescue team intervened and transported the injured hiker to SB Jesenice with the help of an SV helicopter.
Accidents in mountains - accidents in mountains
At 15.37, on the return from Vitranc in Kranjska Gora municipality, a hiker injured his leg. Kranjska Gora GRS mountain rescuers transported him with an off-road vehicle to ZD Kranjska Gora.
Accidents in mountains - accidents in mountains
At 16.41, four hikers were stuck on the path to the summit of Mala Mojstrovka in the Julians, where they were caught by a storm. Kranjska Gora GRS rescuers and the Slovenian police helicopter for mountain rescue with the duty team were activated. With the help of a winch, they lifted the unharmed hikers into the helicopter and transported them to Vršič.
Accidents in sports, recreational and other activities - accidents in sports, recreational and adrenaline activities
At 11.48, in Jereka, Bohinj municipality, a participant injured her leg during the descent down the waterfall in Jeraka canyon. Bohinj GRS mountain rescuers rescued the injured participant with rope technique. She was transported to ZD Bohinj for further medical care.
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| fanton5. 08. 2013 15:04:01 |
Hello!
I hope I won't cause ill will with my questions.
Though not a spring chicken, I am a relative newbie in hiking.
I have already been to Triglav a few times - also via Tominšek's path, Kanjavec, Prisojnik, and more.
Last year I tried Jalovec, but no further than the end of the first protections, as the return seemed harder than the ascent itself.
Friend who went to the summit told me on return that there are no protections ahead, so I wonder if the path to Jalovec is so safe that protections are not needed, as I would like to summit this year.
I also have a question about the climbing harness. Is it better to have a one-piece full one, or just the lower part and a self-belay kit?
I am curious about the path ratings - difficult, very difficult. What is the difference?
All say a self-belay kit is needed, but what about where there are no cables and pegs?
Best regards
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| viharnik5. 08. 2013 15:59:17 |
Jalovec undoubtedly ranks among the more demanding summits of our mountains, both in terms of ascent duration and difficulty. Definitely a tough nut for a beginner hiker. Where there are no protections on the mountain, it is not indicated that the terrain is easy, which it actually is not. Always be careful with scree and loose shaky holds as well as falling rocks. For secured paths, use a one-piece sit harness with belay kit. If Jalovec feels too tough a nut by feel, then stick to easier ascents to get a feel for walking such paths, then gradually increase the difficulty. Sometimes one bad unthinking step in scree (or loss of balance among rocks), a too hasty grip with the hand on loose rocks, and the matter can end badly. Paths rated as very difficult are already vertical in nature (st. III-IV), where certain high-mountain experience, good condition in arms and legs, and of course higher climbing abilities are needed.
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| jesihar5. 08. 2013 15:59:53 |
I don't buy these difficulty ratings. Both paths, Tominšek's and the path from Kotovo sedlo to Jalovec, are supposedly 'very difficult'. Tominšek's does not seem a big problem for the average hiker, as it is really well secured. But the latter I think is much harder - also objectively more dangerous, because it runs through demanding crumbly terrain and is very sparsely secured. With a self-belay harness you won't help much on those few cables.
I often see that comparing other mountains to Triglav ("if I managed Triglav, I'll manage that too") readily misleads someone.
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| jedriličar5. 08. 2013 20:49:46 |
It's not said for nothing that Jalovec is the king of mountains.
Personally for me the upper part of the descent from the summit to Kotovo sedlo is one of the worst, where there's no room for error, if you slip you fly down some 500-700 meters.... so you don't mess with Jalovec......
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| Zebdi6. 08. 2013 10:57:29 |
fanton, I'll try to answer you
Jalovec won't pose major problems to an experienced enough hiker. I'd advise you to rack up mileage on other trails and leave Jalovec for a while. When in a few years you head again to some very demanding trail that you did earlier in your "career", you'll realize the paths aren't as narrow as you remembered, the steepness isn't that bad and the exposure isn't that scary.
My opinion is that nowadays people rush too quickly to trails they're not grown up for. Instead of enjoying less demanding paths, they buy all possible safety gear and then clip on terrified to every anchor they see along the way. These same people then preach on web forums to others about using self-belay gear, saying anchors were installed exactly for that purpose. They don't know that anchors were mostly installed long before the first SVKs appeared Of course there are also other heroes who find no trail hard or dangerous and confidently proclaim that. So I'd advise you to skip web forums during tour prep (except for current conditions info) and use printed guidebooks for actual trail difficulty. For Julian Alps, Mihelič's guide is still the law.
Hope I answered you at least partially 
Safe in the mountains!
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