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| Boštjan MK30. 10. 2016 15:06:21 |
Yesterday a nice, calm and warm afternoon approach with Brane to Storžič from the Jezersko side. The path is without features, just in the lower part be a bit more careful with the markings as fresh fallen leaves and some downed trees can lead us off the path briefly.
Otherwise a very nice day with exceptional views.
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| Ninđa31. 10. 2016 17:23:50 |
Circle around Storžič (or jubilee 20th ascent to Storžič)
Coincidence willed it that on the 20th jubilee ascent to Storžič I also fulfilled the wish of which I had long dreamed 
The wish was simple. To circle Storžič and climb it.
Why Storžič? Because it's my most beautiful and favorite KS mountain. Because it's such a nice loner. Because it's a rare Slovenian mountain you can circle etc.
I started in Mače. To Kališče I ascended partly on the marked, partly on the unmarked path, and the circle started at Bašeljski preval. Circle clockwise. Main points: 1) Javorniški preval; 2) Dom pod Storžičem; 3) Mala Poljana; 4) Velika Poljana; 5) Planina Javornik back to start - Bašeljski preval. The path is excellently marked. Only two sections unmarked, from Velika Poljana to Planina Javornik and from the water spring below Bašeljski preval to Bašeljski preval.
Lp, Nino
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| jprim31. 10. 2016 18:05:58 |
Every year at least once to Storžič, just that today we set off from Mače partly on unmarked path, searching for the path due to fog and tracks made by foresters.
But that's not important at all, I was shocked about the forest, destroyed quite a few hectares of area .... what are you locals who go often on this path doing, walking through nature with closed eyes, or do you think it's unimportant that forest is perishing, it's natural wealth of all of us and we can feel responsible for it.
No words, I can only say this, if I were a local, I would be more responsible.
Lp!
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| Mrki31. 10. 2016 19:06:22 |
If you went to Kališče or Storžič more often, you'd know the clearings are due to the bark beetle. Locals aren't particularly to blame for that.
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| jprim1. 11. 2016 07:01:49 |
Do you think I don't know it's about two pests, bark beetle and longhorn beetle, at least that's what it said on the trees ...
I just have this fact in mind, that we could have alerted the forestry service that something's happening in the forest, the issue could have been resolved before these two pests spread so much. I feel that most people really don't care.
Lp!
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| marjanovski1. 11. 2016 07:50:41 |
Yesterday from Kanonir. Lower part of the path in shade, but at the pass there's sunshine
I was also surprised by such extensive clearings in mixed forest. I understand they're "cleaning" spruce, but what does beech have to do with bark beetle?
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| dprapr1. 11. 2016 10:20:22 |
Some seem to want to live in the forest.
We're third in forest cover in the EU anyway.
If farmers continue abandoning meadows in hilly areas, which is happening, then the picture will be a bit different.
Easiest is to nicely wander foreign forests and criticize.
I'll repeat once more what I wrote somewhere, namely that the greatest good is that we can walk anywhere, on the other hand we fence our plots with big fences so even the neighbor can't see us. Many take trash to the nearest forest, which of course isn't theirs. We should think about that!
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| jprim1. 11. 2016 18:25:44 |
Yes, dprap .... living in the forest, no need, ...
although I take care of a little piece on our Earth, your data on forest cover holds, but what helps if the forest isn't healthy, if there can be many hectares sick with bark beetle, so your comment even more shows indifference to some issues.
What you're commenting probably applies mostly just to you.
Regards!
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| slamca1. 11. 2016 18:28:39 |
The problem of dry forests is also that forest owners don't allow larger forest cuttings, safety belts. So it infests, spreads and destroys because of that.
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| Kozorog1. 11. 2016 19:10:28 |
slamca... forest cutting isn't determined by the owner but .. if simplified, the state!
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| lynx1. 11. 2016 19:28:40 |
Just frameworks, the owner can sit on his forest and let it overgrow (with minor protective exceptions). Or plants spruce again, because it's valuable anyway.
Trees grow slowly and mistakes from distant past we won't fix for long. Climate change has just sped things up a bit.
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| Boštjan MK1. 11. 2016 21:03:55 |
I sign everything, dprapr. And Kozorog, the state determines the cut in one and the same person - now officially too. So logger, cutter executor and buyer. Let whoever understands. Who is stronger here, owner or state, let each judge themselves. Well, the owner often has to stay quiet when masses of recreationalists, mushroom pickers and various gatherers - often also litterers - simply take theirs without words.
About spruce... Yes, (almost) crime was committed when it was so consciously spread in the name of expertise. And to areas where it never grew. Here a botanist should speak up if it ever grew or where in Slovenia spruce once grew. And some still equate forest with spruce, which incidentally acidifies the soil, which consequently reduces competitiveness of other tree species. Of course blueberries grow nicely, which is enough for many to sit on blue-green clearing and snack in fresh air. Skidding and tractors already disturb this universe.
Lynx, trees really grow slowly, shrubs much faster. And again many farmers will know to tell how quickly in forest maps their meadow is reduced by the edge shrub part. And then the farmer must get permission (we know from whom) for shrub cutting to return the meadow to original state. Nothing to do, we're a land of bureaucrats and squeezing the small...
Ah, just one more thing. I'm not owner of even a foot of forest myself, but I see (and am sad) many things.
Safe steps to all! And as few ticks! Hmm, there are few on lawns. But what, when chestnuts and mushrooms grow a bit farther from home threshold.
What do I want to say? Sadly we lack holistic view of nature. Too often we solve just our own garden: some forest, others spruce, some see nature as tourist polygon without limits, some heal their ego with warnings of others' mistakes, state and many individuals see only profit... Eventually we'll realize we're all part of the same ship. Or as T. Merton nicely wrote or repeated: No one is an island...
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| SamoK1. 11. 2016 21:20:01 |
Boštjan, you wrote so "expertly" that I was surprised when you added you're not a forest owner. Well, I am a forest owner and I tell you almost nothing you wrote is correct.
Those clearings that so horribly disfigure our midlands are usually consequence of owners' greed and saving on cutting costs, nothing else. And definitely not "state conspiracies".
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| Boštjan MK1. 11. 2016 21:53:41 |
SamoK, unfortunately I know too many examples where everything is true. Or maybe you're just lucky that the forester hasn't found you yet, nor the state bureaucrats. Specifically, isn't the Jekarica area state-owned?
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| jprim2. 11. 2016 06:13:29 |
Yes, interesting discussion..., but who is the state - aren't we? Yes, the people who just quietly nod to all the newly adopted regulations that benefit the state apparatus, not the people, just like Cankar writes; Hlapec Jernej and his right....
SamoK- you wrote well, since my comment refers to irresponsible owners and those who prefer to look the other way when there's a problem.
I'm not like that. I could talk more about cases I experience while hiking... about horses grazing in mud, I also took action, about shepherds and their flock of sheep... anyway, I care, that's what I want to say and my ego is just fine
Regards!
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| gj2. 11. 2016 08:08:04 |
Jprim and others, smart ones, sweep your own dust or doorstep.
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| jprim2. 11. 2016 09:07:14 |
I'm glad I stepped on someone's sore spot, if you're at least an adult and mature person and personality, then think a bit.
And I don't intend to comment anymore,..that's already progress, if at least this issue is written about.
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| citam28. 11. 2016 15:54:41 |
I have an unusual question for forum visitors.. Maybe someone knows what the conditions are like on the path from Dom pod Storžičem to the top of Storžič? Thanks for answers. LP
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| dkrajnc2728. 11. 2016 16:22:52 |
@citam
As far as I know Storžič, the path past the hut at Kališče should be dry, because it mostly runs through the sunny area in autumn and winter time.
Dom pod Storžičem is from the other direction and I think crampons in the bag wouldn't hurt. Good luck
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| nteam30. 11. 2016 07:31:25 |
@citam
I went to Storžič through Žrelo last Sunday morning. No snow. On the way down via Škarjev rob you step on snow 2x, but already after exiting the initial rocky part, so no problem.
Good luck!
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